Thank you all for your responses.

There are no spaces between Xms and the values.

I have updated similar arguments(-Xms30720m -Xmx30720m) in one of the
non-prod environments(in mbs instead of gb). It correctly shows the max
heap as 30GB in the Solr UI.

So, I would like to update 31.5 GB similarly in PROD (-Xms32256m
-Xmx32256m). Before applying that should i analyze heap memory stats using
Heap analyzer tool or i can go ahead and apply. I have a total server
memory of 62GB and only solr is running in it. Please suggest.


On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 8:00 PM Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org>
wrote:

> Use a heap analysis tool. You’ll see a sawtooth pattern in the heap size.
> The bottom of that sawtooth is the actual amount of memory that Solr is
> using. Pick the highest point of the bottom of the sawtooth, then add some
> headroom, maybe a gigabyte. Test with that value.
>
> wunder
> Walter Underwood
> wun...@wunderwood.org
> https://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>
> > On Mar 9, 2023, at 5:23 AM, Dave <hastings.recurs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Agreed, but often times as a developer you are subject to the requests
> of those higher up and you end up with 30 facets of strings that are the
> length of names.  But yes, test as low as you can and try to keep the
> qtimes low and just keep adjusting until you are happy with whatever time
> works for you, I preferred sub half second but the index was 400+ gb so I
> used a large heap
> >
> >> On Mar 9, 2023, at 7:56 AM, Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> It's a waste to set heap to 30g if your use of Solr only requires 6g
> to function. That is 24G memory not being used for index caching, and it
> will may, depending on chose GC, cause bigger/longer GC events as more
> garbage piles up before collection.
> >>
> >> You have to measure and experiment to find your heap sweetspot.
> >> It is a common misconception that giving more heap to Solr improves
> performance of something, it's rather the contrary. Only rarely do you need
> huge internal solr caches, and if you find yourself needing that kind of
> memory due to requesting huge number of docs or faceting on high
> cardinality long string fields or whatever, then it is better to optimize
> your use of Solr to lower the footprint than to add >30g.
> >>
> >> Jan
> >>
> >>> 9. mar. 2023 kl. 12:52 skrev Dave <hastings.recurs...@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>> Again, set to less than 32, I liked 30
> >>>
> >>>>> On Mar 9, 2023, at 1:04 AM, Deepak Goel <deic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> The max heap could be the max heap used by the process uptill now.
> And not
> >>>> the max value you have set. I would suggest you increase the load by
> at
> >>>> least 20 times to see the max heap to go to 32 gb.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Deepak
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> >>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 8:21 AM Shawn Heisey <apa...@elyograg.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 3/8/2023 9:24 AM, HariBabu kuruva wrote:
> >>>>>> I have set the Heap memory as -Xms 1g -Xmx 40g in the Production
> >>>>>> environment.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But when i see the Heap memory in the Solr UI. I can see the Max
> Heap
> >>>>> below.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Max: 3.8Gb
> >>>>>> Used: 2.2Gb
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The other answers you've gotten are good.  This is mostly just a
> little
> >>>>> more detail.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you really do have the spaces before the 1g and 40g, then those
> >>>>> values are probably not being honored as Jan said.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you don't have the spaces, then Java will start with the heap
> size at
> >>>>> 1GB, and only increase it if there is enough memory pressure.  One
> thing
> >>>>> that I don't know is whether Java will use the 32 bit pointers with
> the
> >>>>> Xmx at 40g.  It probably won't, so I expect that memory usage would
> be
> >>>>> more efficient if you set the max heap to 31g.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> With a heap size at 32GB or larger, Java has to use 64 bit pointers,
> and
> >>>>> that will make it use quite a bit more memory because Solr creates a
> LOT
> >>>>> of objects.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As Dave said, if you use Xms and Xmx, then they should be set to the
> >>>>> same value.  And the value should be less than 32GB for efficiency.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you use the SOLR_HEAP environment variable in the include script,
> >>>>> then both Xms and Xmx will be set to the provided value.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Shawn
> >>>>>
> >>
>
>

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