On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Matt Kettler wrote:

If it's blacklisting based on resolved ip, it should probably be noted that there are a couple of caveats:

1) Spammers can set up multiple ip addresses to an A record. Whatever does the reporting should check all A records, from the top down. i.e. query each NS multiple times to make sure it's not being round-robined or reported differently from multiple DNS servers.

2) I can easily forsee spammers doing a wildcard subdomain as an effort to thwart this, if we're doing nslookups.

3) It's a common case that spammers use disposable landing sites, such as the forwarding services offered by tinyurl, zoneedit, and the like, or will put an HTTP redirect on a hotmail or geocities page. Should those be exempt from this, since they have a fair number of legitimate domains as well?

-Dan


At 04:56 PM 9/9/2004, Chris Santerre wrote:
So is there a way to use the IP info in a good way? Could SA or SURBL do a
quick ping of the URL and match against a URL? This would allow us to simply
list 1 IP instead of all these domains.

Chris, SA 3.0 appears to already support checking DNS blacklisting of URLs based on resolved IP. (as well as surbl-style based on domain name). So theoretically, SURBL could open up a separate list based on IP's (i.e.: multi.dnsbl.surbl.org)



Take a look at the example where it checks the resolved IP of a URL against the SBL (an IP based list):


uridnsbl URIBL_SBL sbl.spamhaus.org. TXT
header URIBL_SBL eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SBL')
describe URIBL_SBL Contains a URL listed in the SBL blocklist
tflags URIBL_SBL net



and from URIDNSBL.pm:

This works by analysing message text and HTML for URLs, extracting the
domain names from those, querying their NS records in DNS, resolving
the hostnames used therein, and querying various DNS blocklists for
those IP addresses. This is quite effective.


       SYNOPSIS

       loadplugin    Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL
       uridnsbl      URIBL_SBLXBL    sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org.   TXT



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