% host 66.111.4.30
30.4.111.66.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer frontend1.messagingengine.com.

You coul dnot prove it by me that the name there is the HELO rather than
the rDNS lookup.

{^_^}
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Avi Shatz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Well, the way that Microsoft SMTP works here, is if the line is: 
> 
> Received: from frontend1.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.30]) by
> localmta.org with
>     Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.80); Sat, 18 Sep 2004 19:53:03 +0300
> 
> The EHLO is: "frontend1.messagingengine.com"
> The IP is: 66.111.4.30
> The accepting Server is: localmta.org
> 
> I've double checked this, that first string is not the rDNS, its clearly
> the EHLO, and can be used..
> 
> Any ideas on how to solve this?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Avi Shatz 
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 2:18 AM
> To: 'Loren Wilton'
> Subject: RE: SPF Fails on SA 3.0rc5 because of lack of HELO ?
> 
> Well, the way that Microsoft SMTP works here, is if the line is: 
> 
> Received: from frontend1.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.30]) by
> localmta.org
> with
>     Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.80); Sat, 18 Sep 2004 19:53:03 +0300
> 
> The EHLO is: "frontend1.messagingengine.com"
> The IP is: 66.111.4.30
> The accepting Server is: localmta.org
> 
> I've double checked this, that first string is not the rDNS, its clearly
> the EHLO, and can be used..
> 
> Any ideas on how to solve this?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Loren Wilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 2:01 AM
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: Re: SPF Fails on SA 3.0rc5 because of lack of HELO ?
> 
> > From some reason, SPF is always claiming the lack of HELO in the
> received
> headers, while they are clearly there.
> 
> Nope, they're not.
> 
> >I'm attaching an example message file which I try to pass via
> spamassassin,
> and get something like:
> 
> >debug: SPF: checking HELO (helo=, ip=66.111.4.30)
> >debug: SPF: trimmed HELO down to ''
> >debug: SPF: cannot get HELO, cannot use SPF
> 
> Received: from frontend1.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.30]) by
> localmta.org
> with
>     Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.80); Sat, 18 Sep 2004 19:53:03 +0300
> Received: from web4.messagingengine.com (web4.internal [10.202.2.213])
> by
>     frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E5CC154AE
> for
>     <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:53:00 -0400 (EDT)
> 
> Those debug lines are pointing to the first received line above.  The
> HELO
> name would normally appear between the ( and the [ of the dotquad
> address.
> Nothing there.
> 
> The second received line does appear to have a HELO name on it.
> However,
> the address is in private space, so is not usable.
> 
>         Loren

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