> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kris Deugau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 3:24 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: spoofed Received header
>
> Er, I think you're getting your terminology mixed up.  Those 
> are usually
> considered to be the same thing (ie, the SMTP "MAIL FROM:" == envelope
> sender).  I think you mean the "From:" field in the message headers
> instead of "envelope from".

Yeah, sorry.  I took a 50/50 shot at getting my terms right.  I'm not running 
for president. ;)

> Er...  You don't want mail that you send to the list to 
> appear as if you
> wrote it?  That's what you're asking for here...

Yes and no.  I think it should be clear that it wasn't sent directly by me, but 
show for informational purposes that I wrote the content.  This is somewhat 
done in practice by prepending [listname] to the message subject, and having 
the reply-to point to the list.
Anyway, my complaint wasn't about mailing list software, and this wouldn't be 
the place for that anyway.  What I was attempting to say, which somewhat 
applied to this original thead, was that we do block From headers that claim to 
be our domain.  It works wonders for combatting spam and viruses, but you don't 
get your own mail back from lists. *shrug*

Below is one example (I have quite a few) of why I do this - a social 
engineering attack sent before I put this policy in place.  I don't expect my 
regional sales managers to know that this wasn't legitimate, although I do my 
best to educate the users.  This appeared to come from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



Dear user of Riconcorp.com gateway e-mail server,

We  warn  you about some attacks  on your  e-mail account. Your computer may
contain  viruses, in order  to keep your  computer and e-mail  account safe,
please, follow the instructions.

For details see the attached  file.

For  security reasons  attached file is password protected. The  password is 
"14083".

Sincerely,
     The Riconcorp.com team                                
http://www.riconcorp.com

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