Ok that works great if you KNOW the domain.. but what do you do when
this happens once every 3 or 4 days to random domains?


On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:30:18 +0100, Chr. von Stuckrad
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 01:47:12PM -0500, Matt wrote:
> > Ahh ha! Got it.. it seems to be domains that either the name servers
> > are not responding.. or the domain doesn't exist yet.. for instance:
> >
> > debug: DNS MX records found: 0
> >
> > Is there anyway to get around this?  It seems to hang and do this
> > twice for long enough to delay the system... any thoughts?
> 
> Two things.  You can change the timeout in spamassassin's configs,
> but some spammers did something which made the situation worse.
> 
> They created lots of subdomains and redirected all
> mail for them to MTAs of (what we saw) 'saveinternet.net'
> 
> They defined correct DNS entries and MX Records,
> but then filtered completely all IP-Traffic to /dev/null.
> 
> So *every* try to *really* access them goes into
> timeouts and bogs down the mailserver.
> 
> I Assume they do it to get rid of MTAs which
> try to confirm their sender addresses.
> 
> So IF you get mail from such spammers you either
> get slowed down by the timeouting confirmation-tests,
> or you get your queues 'bloated' by bounces.
> 
> The only thing we could do, was to create a fake
> DNS-Table in our local DNS-Server (locally for
> the MTA-Host) and let the MTA believe the whole
> Domain is completely empty.
> 
> So the MTA assumes there is nobody to reach and
> drops the Mail instantaneously.
> (20% less load on the MTA since then)
> 
> Yours    Stucki
> 
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