Hello Daryl,

[BTW, thanks to you and others for the direct response/cc in addition
to the list posting. I get the list by digest, and so list-only
responses don't get to me until the digest is released.]

Wednesday, March 9, 2005, 6:55:50 PM, you wrote:

>> DCWOS> Don't forget about the new whitelist_from_spf capability that
>> DCWOS> should be in the next major release.
>> 
>> Not forgetting about it.  Looking forward to it.  However, hoping to
>> have a first whitelist.cf file out before 3.1 is officially released,
>> we can't very well include whitelist_from_spf rules in there, at least
>> not immediately.

DCWOS> Of course!  I wasn't sure on the time line for this whitelist,
DCWOS> or 3.1 for that matter.

Not sure about 3.1, but hope to have the first release of the
whitelist file out in a couple of weeks.

DCWOS> I believe you'd need to use two separate if structures:

if (version >>= 3.001000)
DCWOS>  whitelist_from_spf
DCWOS> endif

DCWOS> if (version < 3.001000)
DCWOS>  whitelist_from_rcvd
DCWOS> endif

Captured and will test/verify.

Related question to anyone/everyone: I've been unable to get
mass-check results on whitelist_from_rcvd ... I can test against
individual emails using
> spamassassin --prefs-file=file <testemail >outputfile
but nothing I've done has gotten any results through mass-check and
hit-frequencies. Is there a way to get hit-frequencies results from
whitelist_from_rcvd?

>> DCWOS> For info on whitelist_from_spf (and def_whitelist_from_spf)
>> DCWOS> implementation see bug 3487.
>> 
>> Thanks for the pointer. This functionality is active in the current
>> svn bleeding edge version, yes? If so, then perhaps later this week I
>> can download that and begin playing with it.

DCWOS> I haven't commited it yet, but the latest patch in the bug will
DCWOS> probably be what is used unless somebody thinks of something I
DCWOS> missed.

I'll probably proceed with whitelist.cf release 1 strictly on _rcvd
then, to get it out this month, and will roll in _spf capabilities
once it's stable.

DCWOS> It'd be extremely unlikely that the actual rule form would change from
DCWOS> what it is now:          whitelist_from_spf      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DCWOS> ...just like whitelist_from & blacklist_from.

And that leads to the second question: what's the best way for an "end
user" to obtain/verify SPF records? I have all the capabilities of XP
(shudder) and Cygwin readily available, and can get Linux command-line
capabilities via SSH to SARE's server, I believe.

>> Rather than maintain the rules and then separately a list of domains,
>> IMO it'd be easier to simply make sure the rules are ordered by domain
>> name, and make the online link point to the rules file itself.
>> 
>> I'd rather go to the slight extra effort of making the rules file more
>> readable than try to keep two different files in sync.

DCWOS> Well, if it comes to the point where you implement a database
DCWOS> for submissions, you can automatically generate both the rules
DCWOS> page and the submission page / duplication checks rather
DCWOS> trivially.

Good point!

Bob Menschel



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