* Bill Cole <sausers-20150...@billmail.scconsult.com>:
> On 27 Nov 2017, at 8:57 (-0500), Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
> 
> > * Tobi <jahli...@gmx.ch>:
> > > ALL_TRUSTED should fire if msg is only transported via trusted
> > > hosts, so
> > > you can do && !ALL_TRUSTED
> > > But would it not be better to not accept such messages in first place
> > > and reject them on your border mta?
> > 
> > This is my border MTA.
> 
> One safe & useful tactic is to not accept mail on your border MTA with the
> envelope sender in a local domain, and instead have a submission server
> (port 587) for local users to submit through. No need for SA.

This is not about envelope, this is about the header.
 
> Hitting on the From *header* and an external source is (as noted by RW)
> trickier

Exactly.

> because traditional mailing list configuration (i.e. pre-DMARC with
> 'p=reject') usually preserves the original From header. Even worse are
> websites (such as some newspapers) who have "email this page" functions
> which require users to provide their email address for use in the From
> header. DMARC is likely to erode these senders over time but since the
> use of 'p=reject' is not a widespread norm, it will take a while.

Putting my rules in place already pointed out several hosts not on our network
sending mail as charite.de senders...

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Ralf Hildebrandt                   Charite Universitätsmedizin Berlin
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