Hi All, dkimwl.org is a site owned and run by myself.
A little bit of work is required to get the TOU sorted - I'd floated the idea some time ago but not much interest was seen so I stopped work on the front end services. The backend and classification/voting system is in place and should work without too much hassle. If people are looking at this as a wanted service I can definitely spend some time updating and cleaning up the last bits that need fixing. Thanks for the heads up re: SSL Please feel free to get in touch if you want to share ideas / help Paul On 08/02/2018, 16:09, "Tom Hendrikx" <t...@whyscream.net> wrote: On 08-02-18 16:33, Giovanni Bechis wrote: > On 02/08/18 16:23, David Jones wrote: >> On 02/07/2018 06:28 PM, Dave Warren wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018, at 15:52, Martin Gregorie wrote: >>>>> Technically, you asked for the email and they have a valid opt-out >>>>> process that will stop sending you email. Yes, the site has scummy >>>>> practices but that is not spam by my definition. >>>>> >>>> Yes, under EU/UK that counts as spam because the regulations say that >>>> the signer-upper must explicitly choose to receive e-mail from the >>>> site, and by-default sign-in doesn't count as 'informed sign-in'. >>> >>> Canadian law is the same, this is absolutely spam without any ambiguity. >>> >> >> But how can you tell the difference based on content then? You can't. Two different senders could send the exact same email and one could be spam from tricking the recipient to opt-in and another could be ham the recipient consciously opted into. >> >> This would have to be blocked or allowed based on reputation. One would train the message as spam in their Bayes database and allow trusted senders via something like a domain whitelist, URI whitelist, or a whitelist_auth entry. >> >> We are back to needing a curated WL based on something like DKIM. Alex just made me aware of http://dkimwl.org/ which looks brilliant. Exactly lines up with how I filter and what I have been wanted to do for a couple of years now. A community-driven clearing house for trusted senders. >> > dkimwl.org looks promising, but tell them their https cert has expired. > Giovanni > Also, they refer to the TOU for acceptable usage, but both /terms and /license have a 404. Kind regards, Tom -- Paul Stead Senior Engineer (Tools & Technology) Zen Internet Direct: 01706 902018 Web: zen.co.uk Winner of 'Services Company of the Year' at the UK IT Industry Awards This message is private and confidential. If you have received this message in error, please notify us and remove it from your system. Zen Internet Limited may monitor email traffic data to manage billing, to handle customer enquiries and for the prevention and detection of fraud. We may also monitor the content of emails sent to and/or from Zen Internet Limited for the purposes of security, staff training and to monitor quality of service. Zen Internet Limited is registered in England and Wales, Sandbrook Park, Sandbrook Way, Rochdale, OL11 1RY Company No. 03101568 VAT Reg No. 686 0495 01