On 10 Jul 2020, at 5:12, hospice admin wrote:

$0.02 from a woman of colour ...

I personally find stuff like this just a little bit patronising ... more of a matter of kicking the real problem into the weeds than actually doing anything practical to 'fix' it.

Well, in the context of the Apache SpamAssassin Project, "The Real Problem" that we have any capacity to work on is the low diversity of our developer community. Eliminating terminology that may be off-putting for even a minority of a minority of possible contributors is worthwhile, particularly when the block/welcome terminology we are replacing black/white with is explicitly descriptive rather than metaphorical and connotative.

We have no way of knowing how many people have thought less of SA because of terminology or whether any of those people might have otherwise become involved enough in the project to be contributors. If changing the terminology makes the Project look less like a bunch of white guys trying to make rules for the world's email, that's a positive step.

Right up there with Mercedes decision to paint their $100 Million F1 cars black.

This is a bit less symbolic. We're actually making the terminology better.

I'm sure the intent was positive though ...

The intent is to do what we can to make involvement in the SpamAssassin community less hostile to newcomers, even if elements of hostility that we can address are not universally recognized as such. We cannot do much for the bigger Real Problems that intersect with ours tangentially, because unlike Daimler-Benz, we don't have $100 Million or even $1 to spend. None of us has the time and skills to make a focused recruiting effort to get a more diverse set of contributors or even just more contributors. Changing a few labels in the code is something we CAN do.

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