On Tuesday, April 12, 2005, 8:31:53 AM, List User wrote:
>>...
>>
>>List Mail User wrote:
>>>      Did either of you try listing himlove. com (invalid telephone/fax),
>>> or notice that the contacts' email is from a non-existant domain,
>>> heroutside. com.  Or that the name servers in carr821. com also have
>>> an invalid address.  Or that the contact domain from the DNS servers,
>>> narod. ru have an invalid registration.  Or that the name server domain
>>> for narod. ru of yandex. ru also has an invalid registration ...
>>> 
>>>      I gave up after about 8.
>>> 
>>>      You have to realize when some idiot has just invited you to get rid
>>> of a half dozen or so spam and spam support domains.
>>
>>a short howto to the list would be good ;-)
>>
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>         Start with your favorite version of "whois" (I like jwhois, because
> you seldom need to enter the registry).  Then learn the rules about what is
> required.  Lookup all the contacts' email domains - if you *really* want to
> get them check the email validity with telnet to the server.  Check all the
> domains with either nslookup or dig, paying particular attention to any 'MX'
> records - look them up separately checking for invalid addresses (i.e.
> 127.0.0.1 or MX's of address literals).  Keep going until things run in a
> circle (i.e. you stop finding new domains).  Check all the addresses with
> your favorite set of online maps (usually Yahoo! for North America, Mapquest
> for the rest of the world, but some place require more work).  Check the 
> postal
> codes at the countries own postal authority if you can (usually the first or
> second line from Google with "Country_Name postal code") or from a few other
> sites (escapeartist is good as is statoids).  File everything you find wrong
> with rfc-ignorant and for international TLDs (e.g. ".com", ".net", ".org",
> ".biz", ".info", etc) file at wdprs.internic.net.  For other TLDs, you have
> to do whatever the specific grantor requires (but for ".us" - send email to
> the registrar and a "Cc:" [EMAIL PROTECTED]);  For Canada, use cira.ca, etc.

>         With a little practice, it takes 1-3 minutes for most bogus domains.
> (Count on 15 minutes to an hour, until you get the hang of it).

>         Ad nausem (automated checking of the contacts' emails and the abuse@,
> postmaster@ and DSN addresses are good too).

>         And also, if any of the emails you find is a MSN, Hotmail or in other
> MS domain or of a Outblaze customer (together, thats about 15% of all email
> accounts in the world) - send off an email with the copy of the spam - the
> account will be canceled - then tommorrow, the domain has become invalid.

>         Start by reading the documents at www.arin.net, www.internic.net, and
> rfc-ignorant.org.

>         Also, remember, many spam friendly registrars won't do anything until
> fored to by the overriding authority - good cases take 15-20 days for the
> domain to die, bad ones can take 3-4 months;  But you can blacklist them in
> almost no time.

>         Good luck and have fun hunting (nobody spams my domains and gets off
> clean!),

>         Paul Shupak
>         [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> P.S. The "real" finds are the rare invalid netblock or ASN, but that can wait
> until you learn to check domains.

This really belongs in some kind of spam-fighting FAQ or howto
somewhere.....

Jeff C.
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