Hello Thomas,

This might help too:
These failures are often due to SPFs that have a hard fail (meaning they end 
with ‘-all’). When I dealt with this in the past, the original sending domain 
was one where we could modify the SPF. So we had the email sender change “-all” 
to “~all” and since that makes it a soft fail, the email forwards started 
operating again. 

And it sounds like you already know this but: 

SPFs are basically TXT records attached to a domain’s DNS that specifies which 
mail server IPs have permission to send that domain’s emails. Hence the issue 
with email forwarding; Domain A sends to B which sends to C which makes C 
grumpy since B isn’t on A’s list of approved IPs. 

> On Jan 3, 2024, at 1:46 PM, Bill Cole 
> <sausers-20150...@billmail.scconsult.com> wrote:
> 
> On 2024-01-03 at 14:17:11 UTC-0500 (Wed, 3 Jan 2024 13:17:11 -0600)
> Thomas Cameron via users <thomas.came...@camerontech.com>
> is rumored to have said:
> 
>> The rub is, I want all emails to presid...@example.org to be forwarded to 
>> presidents_real_addr...@gmail.com. Since the forward happens at 
>> mail.example.org, the "from" is from some other domain from example.org, so 
>> it fails all the tests.
> 
> Indeed: your solution is known as "SRS" (Sender Rewriting Scheme) and it has 
> multiple implementations. If you forward mail, you will break SPF unless you 
> fix the envelope sender so that it uses a domain  that permits the 
> example.org server to send for it.
> 
> OR, you could instead deliver to a POP mailbox locally and have users fetch 
> from there instead of simply forwarding mail to them. This also avoids a 
> completely distinct problem of places like GMail deciding that your org's 
> mail server is a spamming service because it is forwarding spam. If users POP 
> their mail instead of having it forwarded via SMTP, that does not happen.
> 
> 
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