Hi
I use only local pdns recursor and this same I set in SA

1)Spamassassin3.x:
spamassassin -D -t w6.elm

---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------
 1.0 URIBL_BLOCKED          ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was
                            blocked.  See
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block
                             for more information.
                            [URIs: pge-obrot.pl]
-1.9 BAYES_00               BODY: Bayesowskie prawdopodobie�stwo spamu wynosi 0 do 1%
                            [score: 0.0000]
 0.0 FSL_HELO_NON_FQDN_1    No description available.
-1.9 SPF_PASSED             Przeszlo weryfikacje SPF
 1.5 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level
                            mail domains are different
 2.9 FROM_NOT_RETURN_PATH   From: does not match Return-path:
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE           BODY: Wiadomo�� zawiera kod HTML
 0.1 MIME_HTML_ONLY         BODY: Wiadomo�� posiada tylko cz�ci
                            tekstowe/html MIME
 0.2 PAY_SPAM               RAW: payment
 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED            Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily
                            valid
 4.0 DCC_CHECK              Na li�cie DCC (http://www.dcc-servers.net/dcc/)
 0.4 HELO_NO_DOMAIN         Relay reports its domain incorrectly
 5.0 Q_152 FROM_NOT_RETURN_PATH_HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS
 0.1 SHORT_HELO_AND_INLINE_IMAGE Short HELO string, with inline image
 0.1 DKIM_INVALID           DKIM or DK signature exists, but is not valid
 0.0 RDNS_NONE              Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS
 1.0 DMARC_QUAR             No description available.

Feb 14 10:34:39.762 [2817004] dbg: check: tagrun - tag DKIMDOMAIN is still blocking action 3 Feb 14 10:34:39.765 [2817004] dbg: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::MIMEHeader=HASH(0x55e622f11470) implements 'finish_tests', priority 0 Feb 14 10:34:39.765 [2817004] dbg: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Check=HASH(0x55e622f119e0) implements 'finish_tests', priority 0 Feb 14 10:34:39.772 [2817004] dbg: netset: cache trusted_networks hits/attempts: 7/10, 70.0 %
Feb 14 10:34:39.801 [2817004] dbg: bayes: Redis destroy


2)Spamassassin4.x
spamassassin -D -t w6.elm

---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------
 1.0 URIBL_BLOCKED          ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked.
                            See
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block
                             for more information.
                            [URI: gkpge.pl]
                            [URI: pge-obrot.pl]
 0.0 URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED      ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to dbl.spamhaus.org
                             was blocked. See
https://www.spamhaus.org/returnc/vol/
                            [URI: gkpge.pl]
                            [URI: www.gkpge.pl]
                            [URI: pge-obrot.pl]
                            [URI: ebok.gkpge.pl]
                            [URI: www.pge-obrot.pl]
 0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED  RBL: ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to DNSWL
                            was blocked.  See
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#DnsBlocklists-dnsbl-block
                             for more information.
                            [86.xxx.xxx.xxx listed in list.dnswl.org]
 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED            Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid
 0.0 ARC_SIGNED             Message has a ARC signature
 0.0 ARC_VALID              Message has a valid ARC signature
 4.0 DCC_CHECK              Na li�cie DCC (http://www.dcc-servers.net/dcc/)
 0.1 DKIM_INVALID           DKIM or DK signature exists, but is not valid
-1.9 BAYES_00               BODY: Bayesowskie prawdopodobie�stwo spamu wynosi 0 do 1%
                            [score: 0.0000]
-1.9 SPF_PASSED             Przeszlo weryfikacje SPF
 0.0 FSL_HELO_NON_FQDN_1    No description available.
 2.9 FROM_NOT_RETURN_PATH   From: does not match Return-path:
 1.5 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail
                            domains are different
 0.1 MIME_HTML_ONLY         BODY: Wiadomo�� posiada tylko cz�ci tekstowe/html
                            MIME
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE           BODY: Wiadomo�� zawiera kod HTML
 0.2 PAY_SPAM               RAW: payment
 0.4 HELO_NO_DOMAIN         Relay reports its domain incorrectly
 0.0 RDNS_NONE              Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS
 5.0 Q_152 FROM_NOT_RETURN_PATH_HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS
 0.1 SHORT_HELO_AND_INLINE_IMAGE Short HELO string, with inline image
 1.2 DMARC_QUAR             DMARC quarantine policy

Feb 14 10:33:06.358 [161899] dbg: check: tagrun - tag DKIMDOMAIN is still blocking action 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Feb 14 10:33:06.363 [161899] dbg: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::MIMEHeader=HASH(0x55a1fb0055f8) implements 'finish_tests', priority 0 Feb 14 10:33:06.363 [161899] dbg: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Check=HASH(0x55a1fb005b38) implements 'finish_tests', priority 0
Feb 14 10:33:06.368 [161899] dbg: bayes: Redis destroy
Feb 14 10:33:06.378 [161899] dbg: netset: cache trusted_networks hits/attempts: 7/10, 70.0 %




W dniu 14.02.2025 o 04:48, Matija Nalis pisze:
On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 05:13:43PM +0100, natan wrote:
IP ban may make sense - but there was a similar problem with another machine
also with spamassin4.x - after returning to 3x there was no problem
Are you SURE there was NO problem? Or is it possible that the problem
*just isn't reported* in SA3? (i.e. SA4 has better reporting than SA3)

it looks like sa4 e.g. asked a few times e.g. about one thing

Feb 13 17:02:06 amavis5 amavis[9316]: (09316-01) _WARN: check:
dns_block_rule RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED hit, creating
/var/amavis/var/.spamassassin/dnsblock_bl.score.senderscore.com (This means
DNSBL blocked you due to too many queries. Set all affected rules score to
0, or use "dns_query_restriction deny bl.score.senderscore.com" to disable
queries)
are you a paying VALIDITY customer?
Because their public limits are quite low IIRC.
So unless you're paying, you should probably just do what that error
message is suggesting that you do.

But of course, you could do more debugging as described below.

dig +short
127.0.0.1.bzdaby.clicks.mlsend.com.dnsblock_bl.score.senderscore.com
@127.0.0.1
You are still using unneeded "@127.0.0.1", please skip doing that.
It can only introduce confusion and error, and never help when testing SA.

Also, are you sure
"127.0.0.1.bzdaby.clicks.mlsend.com.dnsblock_bl.score.senderscore.com"
is right thing to query? Is SA saying that is **exact** query that is
causing RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED rule to hit?

Have you done "spamassassin -D -t" on problematic mail as I
suggested? I have not seen output of that. Please run that command on
both SA3 and SA4 on same e-mail and compare what DNS queries ther are
actually sending.

It is hard to debug further without that essential information.
It will tell you what DNS queries the SA is sending, which you then
can ran manually with dig.

2) that this pdns-recursor, if it is used, has same version and same
     configuration as other machines (e.g. cache size, forwarders etc).
     IOW, it could be behaving differently.
have you checked this?
yes

3) just because SA3 does not show you the errors, does not
     necessarily mean that it does not experience same errors (but for
     example have errors, but fails to show them)
Also, have you checked this? You need to run "spamassassin -D -t" to
see what SA3 and SA4 are doing. Just because only SA4 reports error
does not mean that SA3 does not also have the error (it is more
likely that it also has the error, but its error detection is not as
good, so it does not inform you of the error).

Probably you right - SA4 is more verbose (debugging)
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