On Sunday 24 July 2005 11:19, Loren Wilton wrote: >> Haveing a kmail problem the other day, I logged in via the webmail >> at vz, and found 9 messages, all spam, sitting in the spam folder >> there. > >On Dirtlink (which seems from your description to be using the same >near-useless webmail as vz) you have a few choices and a very few > things that happen automatically: > >1 If you take the current default configuration, they will do a > decent but not wonderful virus scan first. They will automatically > dump all pure virus messages with no sign that they did so. If you > want to know about these, you can turn on an incredibly innane > option that will send you an email for each deleted virus email.
I haven't see such an option on vz's webmail screens. >Any virus email that they can "partially clean" they dump into a > holding tank and then send you an email per virus that they have > "cleaned" this thing. You CAN NOT turn off these stupid annoyance > emails. Fortunately these prnding virus bits are small and will be > deleted in something like 7 days. I've never to my knowledge received one of those. >2 By default then then scan for spam. I haven't had this turned > on in a few months, but the last time I did it was really quite > effective; and has been for about a year now. Before that it was > essentially useless, catching maybe 10% of the spam. > :) >These spam mails go into the 'caught spam' folder, and DO NOT count > against your mail quota. They will be deleted after some not large > number of days, 3-5 as I recall. At vz, they do count against your total drive space used. When I first signed up for DSL in april 2 years ago, I never looked at the webmail screens as I was fetching mail directly with kmail. A month later the mail slowed to a trickle and then stopped. This was back when you mailbox was a measly 10 megs, now its 30. On calling tech support to see what the deal was, he had me log into the webmail and I had 10 megs worth of stuff sitting in the spam folder. >3 You can move the spam into your real mail folder. This > re-mails it to you, but bypasses scanning. The headers will be > rather strange as a result of this forwarding. Obviously this now > counts against mail quota. > >4 You can delete the spam. This doesn't 'delete', it works like > a windows/mac machine and moves it to the 'deleted items' folder. > Now this deleted spam DOES count against your mail quota! > Fortunately the deleted items folder is really deleted after 7 > days, I think. However, it is smart to click the 'empty trash' > button that shows up here and there and jump through the assorted > hoops necessary to get this crud really deleted. It may be that they have a kill after "x" time setup, but its not mentioned. >BTW, if you move something from deleted items back to inbox, it > doesn't move it, it RE-SENDS it to you! It will show up with new > message numbers and get downloaded a second time by pop. > Oh cool, NOT! > >If you just accept the default configuration of virus and spam > scanning and don't muck with the stuff, it is all reasonably > transparent. If you do like I do and disable one or both of these > scans it is also reasonably transparent, but you get all the spams > or virui, depending on your settings. (I leave the virus scan on > and spam scan off.) I have then both turned on, and set to delete. But a lot of stuff gets thru anyway. I haven't looked in the JunqueMail folder since about 5:30 this morning, 42 new messages, with about 38 labeled as spam by spamassassins spamd. The other 4 fell thru my local sort filters and wind up being sorted to the JunqueMail folder too. Once or twice a day I delete the ones labeled as spam, and feed the rest to the learn-spam tool. >Normally your pop3 client will be set to delete the mail as soon as > it is downloaded. I tend to leave it there for about 5 days before > deleting it with a handy little program I cobbled to do that, so I > can get to webmail if I'm not at home, without having to turn off > the home feed. > >OE will delete the mail from the feed for you, either immediately or > after a period of time. However, I have a double-level pop3 feed > because SA sits in the middle on a linux box, so need to reach > around this to delete the stuff from the main folder. I have > fetchmail set to not delete. (I wish it had an option to delete > after N days/hours, but it doesn't seem to.) > > Loren SA's not exactly in the middle here, its a slave to kmail's fetching by pipeing everything thru SA for suitable labelling before it hits my sort rules. My firewall in only firewall, no mail proxies setup. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.35% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
