On Aug 9, 2005, at 8:06 PM, Rob McEwen wrote:


John Rudd mentioned:
(For all of you people who like to send a "undisclosed recipients"
message to all of your friends: yes, I'm calling you spammers, and I am
unapologetic about it.  If you don't like it, don't send me email.)

message for John Rudd,

Actually it is extremely more rude, inappropriate, amateurish, and
unprofessional to reveal everyone's e-mail addresses to ALL the recipients.

It's not often that I tell someone that they're flat out wrong ... usually I just say that I don't agree. But, that's not the case here. You're flat out wrong.


For example, if my friend sends me a joke e-mail and he sends this to all of his other friends, I do NOT want my e-mail address so easily accessible by the others because my circle of friends may not be the exact same as his.

If the sender doesn't take the time to know what each of the recipients wants, and to accommodate what each recipient wants, the sender is the one being rude and inappropriate. If one recipient doesn't want their address publicized, then send them a separate mailing (and/or coerce your mail software into splitting up the message into multiple instances, one for each recipient).

If I'm one of your recipients, and there isn't an address in the to or cc headers that represents me, then you're being rude to me. Period. That is not up for debate. If you know me, then you know that that's how I feel, and you're being rude if you don't address that. If you don't know me, then you shouldn't assume, and you should just send me a separate instance, otherwise you're being rude by pushing your preference upon the recipient. (and, yes, the burden here is upon the sender, not the recipient, because the sender can't force the recipient to listen/read, therefore if the sender DOES want the recipient to listen/read, they must accommodate the recipient's sense of rude/polite and inappropraite/appropriate)

(and, really, you want to know what rude is? Rude is making it so that I can't tell how I got this message, so that I know who to contact to get off of that distribution list, because the sender may not even know who I am if one of the places they sent email to was a mailing list ... and yes, that HAS happened to me)


As for professional ... I don't know of any professional organization, in my 20 years on the internet, that considers it professional behavior to obfuscate the recipient list in a business message. That's for play and cutesy things like family news letters. It is NOT good business etiquette. In any organization I've been in, you would be laughed out of the company for suggesting otherwise.

If you don't want to list everyone's address, then get them to join a formal mailing list (or get their permission for you to put them on one), and have the mailing list send them the message. Do NOT do something cheesy and amateurish like "undisclosed-recipients:;".

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