On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 01:34 -0700, Loren Wilton wrote:
> > I'm getting this kind of email like once a day and it seems like it
> > scores 0 everytime. I'm using spamasssin 3.1 and feeding them to
> > sa-learn as spam aswell.
> 
> Well, some obvious questions:
> 
> 1.    Is bayes really working for you normally?

yes it does - for all emails except this one.

> 2    Do you have any local german-language spam rules?

no, I don't

> Now, I don't speak german, but a quick glance makes me think this is a
> typical english spam translated to german by someone that doesn't know the
> language well.

sorry but I have to tell you that this emails are actually written in
very good german - blame google for the translation.

> To me, it looks like it is just full of things that would be easy to catch.
> But then, since I don't speak the language and can't congugate a verb or
> noun or whatever declines in German, I can't guess what trivial one-letter
> changes would render any rules I wrote useless.  I also don't know what
> phrases or words that look like good catches might be just common German
> phrases.
> 
> I ran this thru SA here and got about 7 points.  But 1.1 points was from a
> rule that was English based and inapplicable to German, and 3 points were
> from local rules that are inapplicable.  That leaves 3.2 points from SURBL,
> which isn't enough by itself to make this spam.
> 
> Now I could knock out a handful of body rules to catch this for you, but
> they would all be guesses, and probably some pretty bad guesses at that.  I
> would suggest that a simple thing to try would be to look through this and
> stick some spammy-sounding phrases into a stock rule form, and then stick
> those rules in your local.cf and see how they do.  This isn't the apex of
> rule writing, but it should certainly be good enough for this kind of spam.

I know that I could write custom rules but I thought that maybe
spamassassin is mature enough to detect this german crap without any
additional rules. for testing purposes I also do forward this emails to
my gmail account and guess what - there they get detected as spam. So it
seems like these guys are doing something different because I can't
imagine that they really do write custom rules.

thanks anyway for your help,
andreas

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