Hi !!

I am new to postfix and spamassassin, but we are already using
greylist, and I liked a lot what you said here.

How can I greylist messages by means of RBL checking? How should I
setup Postfix to do that?

Regards,
Carlos.

2005/9/24, Herb Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > From: Kai Schaetzl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > Not sure how you combine that. AFAIR, greylisting is
> > tempfailing the first SMTP delivery attempt, correct? Do you
> > check the IP with RBLs and then tempfail it? So, you don't
> > tempfail *every* connection attempt like "traditional"
> > greylisting does?
> >
> >
>
> Exactly -- with the addition that we do this on
> several other criteria than just RBLs.
>
> This avoids pratically all the complaints/negatives*
> against "straight greylisting" (i.e., traditional
> greylisting) and avoids practically all false positives
> from things like RBLs.
>
> * 1) Possible Delay of (new) legitimate email
> * 2) Broken legitimate servers which don't resend
>
>
> Note that these supposed problems with greylisting
> are largely handled even by straight greylisting
> through the use of whitelists for broken servers
> and small delays (a small delay stops almost as
> many spambots as will a long delay.)
>
> Also, if for those not familiar with greylisting
> the idea is you only TEMP_REJECT "new mail", that
> is mail for which you don't have a fairly recent
> successful "triplet":
>
>         From-IP, From-Sender, To-Recipient
>
> Once greylisting determines that the sending server
> can meet the resend requirement there isn't much point
> to greylisting that server anyway (since it is going
> to meet the  greylist requirements in all probability.)
>
> Greylisting lets 10% through, so it isn't the "final"
> solution but it lets you use a LOT OF AGGRESSIVE
> techniques that would normally be dangerous to "good
> mail".
>
> For one, you can use RBLs that would otherwise be
> a terrible risk, or even (grey) block on things like
> "host reverse name/helo name mismatch" (which will
> LOSE a lot of email otherwise.)
>
> Pick any "good" criteria for rejecting email and
> turn it into a good but safe method by using greylisting.
>
> Also note that having our SMTP server check RBLs and
> then having SpamAssassin score them AGAIN if the mail
> gets through, costs VERY LITTLE:  we run a local caching
> DNS server so those resolutions are only going on the
> net just once.
>
> --
> Herb Martin
>
>
>

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