> -----Original Message-----
> From: jdow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:24 PM
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: Re: spam scores low (Sendmail + smtp-vilter + SA )
> 
> 
> From: "Mike Sassaman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Mike Sassaman wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Thanks everyone for your suggestions.  This is what I've done:
> >> >
> >> > required_score 4
> >> > rewrite_header Subject *****SPAM*****
> >> > add_header all Report _REPORT_
> >> > use_razor2 1
> >> > razor_config /etc/mail/spamassassin/.razor/razor-agent.conf
> >> > razor_timeout 600
> >> > trusted_networks w.x.y.z
> >> > use_bayes 1
> >> > use_bayes_rules 1
> >> > bayes_path /home/_vilter/.spamassassin/bayes
> >> > bayes_auto_learn 1
> >> > bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 6
> >> > bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam -5
> >> > skip_rbl_checks 0
> >> > rbl_timeout 600
> >> > use_auto_whitelist 0
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > As you can see I:
> >> >
> >> > Lowered my nonspam threshold so in theory only very low 
> >> scoring mails should
> >> > be learned as ham
> >> >
> >> > Removed the very wrong and bad ALL_TRUSTED 0 line
> >> >
> >> > Added a trusted_networks line that contains the IP address 
> >> of my mail server
> >> > / SA machine.  Based on what I've read at
> >> > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/TrustPath this should 
> >> be all I really
> >> > need on that front.  My mail server is in a non-NATed DMZ 
> >> with a public IP
> >> > address.
> >> >
> >> > Last but not least I added the line:
> >> > add_header all Report _REPORT_
> >> >
> >> > so that I can see what rules are being hit.  Unfortunately 
> >> I am still not
> >> > seeing these headers added to the messages.  The only 
> >> headers I get are
> >> > these:
> >> [snip..]
> >> > Does anyone have a theory about why I am not seeing the 
> >> Report headers?  (I
> >> > know the local.cf file is being read because when I changed 
> >> the required
> >> > score from 5 to 4, that change is reflected in the headers.)
> >> >
> >> > TIA.
> >> 
> >> Mike,
> >> I'm assuming that you've done a 'spamassassin --lint' and 
> >> gotten a clean
> >> bill-of-health to check for syntax errors in your config file.
> >> 
> >> take a small simple example "ham" message and feed that 
> >> directly to SA to
> >> see if you are getting your expected report headers. EG:
> >> 
> >> % spamassassin < /tmp/test-message.txt
> >> 
> >> If that does -not- have the report headers then you've still 
> >> not gotten
> >> your configs correct. If that -does- have the report but 
> mail passing
> >> thru your system does not, then it is a milter issue.
> >> 
> >> When using a sendmail+milter setup, it is up to the milter 
> to decide
> >> what damage to do to the message, not SA. The milter takes 
> a copy of
> >> the incoming message, hands it to SA via the 'spamd' 
> protocol, looks
> >> at the status results that it got back and then sends 
> >> commands to sendmail
> >> to modify the actual message. SA cannot directly modify the message
> >> that is held inside of sendmail, regardless of what the SA 
> >> configs say.
> >> 
> >> Try this, take that ham message and feed it to "spamc" 
> with the '-r'
> >> and then the '-R' option, note the output.
> >> The milter is doing something much like a "spamc -r". 
> There may be a
> >> configuration option for your milter to make it do something 
> >> more like a
> >> "spamc -R".
> >> I use the miltrassassin milter and had to deal with a similar 
> >> situation.
> >> 
> >> Dave
> >> 
> > 
> > Thanks for that useful info.  making progress!
> > 
> > % spamassassin --lint shows no output, so I'm thinking that means no
> > problems in my local.cf.
> > 
> > % spamassassin < /tmp/test-message.txt on a lowscoring spam 
> (-1.6 according
> > to smtp-vilter's headers) get scored a whopping 14.3 by 
> spamassassin!  Tests
> > hit include HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR, BAYES_99, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,
> > RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET, RCVD_IN_XBL, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL
> > 
> > So I think Dave is right - the problem is with the milter, 
> or at least the
> > milter / spamassassin communication.  
> > 
> > Does anyone have any experience using the 'smtp-vilter' 
> milter or have idea
> > what might be causing this issue?  In the meantime I will 
> be searching the
> > docs...
> 
> Mike, one thing you generally must do when you change configuration is
> restart spamassassin however and whatever has it daemonized. Did you
> restart your milter or spamd as appropriate? Your problem 
> might be that
> simple.
> 
> {^_^}
> 

Thanks for the suggestion, but yes I have been restarting both after every
change.

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