Hey guys, thanks for your replies, it's appreciated.

On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 10:44 -0800, Loren Wilton wrote:
> > 
> 
> I cna't seem to connect to your site, so I'll just assume that is a standard
> vertical drug spam.
> 

Yep.  I've been getting weird Horizontal spams too which are slipping
by.

To answer Evan and Matt's question, I use MIMEDefang to send spams to
the spam box.  Again, most spam is tagged correctly and moved
accordingly.

> Or are you saying that when one of these puppies gets through and you go
> back later and test it it gets a very high score?

These spams do not get marked as spam, they are treated as if they are
regular e-mails (ham), despite the fact that when I check them later,
they get an /extremely/ high score.

> 
> > The only reason I can think that they may not be getting sent to our
> > spam box is either SURBL scores aren't registering or somehow these
> > types of messages can get around spamassassin... Could anyone shed some
> > light on why these types of messages are getting by?
> 
> The answer could be "both".
> 
> If you don't have sare_specific.cf (I believe it is) then these Leo drug
> spams will sail right past the SA standard rules.  Even with the sare rules
> it is a bit of a fight; Leo is pretty good about updating the format pretty
> frequently.

 Here's another example message:

http://168.100.199.67/message2.txt



> 
> As for SURBL, it will certainly catch these - IF you aren't one of the first
> lucky winners that gets the initial batch before they can show up in SURBL.
> I suspect this is probably what is happening when you say they have a high
> score but sneak past.  They probably had a low score when they first showed
> up, and only have a high score now that you run it through by hand some
> hours (or even minutes) later.

Hmm... I don't feel so lucky. ;-)

I think the problem is SURBL points aren't being tallied or even
calculated when a spam first comes in, therefore these messages don't
get tagged.  I tested it by sending a URL to my organization which
grossly triggers SURBL, yet it goes through not being tagged as spam.

Any thoughts on how I could troubleshoot this?  And perhaps rectify it?
Maybe some log I could view?  The annoying thing is if I check a message
manually with spamassassin at the command-line, it calculates the points
correctly.


Thoughts/Suggestions?


Julian


> 
> Grab the SARE rules and most of these will get caught I suspect.  However,
> if you are somehow unlucky enough to be on the leading edge of most batches,
> you will probably always have some leaking through until SURBL can catch up.
> 
>         Loren

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