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Matt Kettler wrote:
> David Goldsmith wrote:
>> A messages that just made it through to my mailbox had the following SA
>> headers:
>>
>> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13)
>> X-Spam-Level: ****
>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.5 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_50,HTML_40_50,
>>     HTML_MESSAGE,URIBL_SBL autolearn=no version=3.1.0
>>
>> I bounced it to our 'spam' address and ran 'spamc' against the message
>> and came back with:
>>
>> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13)
>> X-Spam-Level:
>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_40,HTML_40_50,
>>         HTML_MESSAGE,URIBL_SBL autolearn=no version=3.1.0
>>
>>
>> I've seen this often where email bounced by one of our users to out spam
>> box appears to have a lower score when tested manually but in this case,
>> I ran spamc within minutes of receiving the message.
>>
>> Any ideas on what may have changed in the Bayesian database in the short
>> interval that would lower the confidence that the message is spam?
> 
> Define "bounced it to our 'spam' address"..  What exact mechanism did
> you use here?

Using Thunderbird, I used the 'Redirect' option to pass it to an address
that our users can submit spam to that made it through.  We then
manually review / test those messages with spamc / sa-learn by hand.

> I ask because Auto-processing learners are a dangerous minefield, SA's
> bayes system is very sensitive to changes in:
> 
>     From and To: headers
>     Body encoding
> 
> Both of which will be changed dramatically if you use "forward" on a
> message.

Dave


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