On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, John Andersen wrote:

> This does not seem all that unusual a setup to use in the linux
> world, and one that SPF tests should be able to handle, so I'm
> suspecting there may be a setup problem somewhere.

MTA SPF should only be run on a mail relay that is receiving messages
directly from the Internet.

I'll assume that you're talking about SPF tests within SA.

> In this case the spf tests were seemingly applied to the last
> mailserver (my ISP's mail server) rather than the originator's
> mail server, and then this last mail server is tested against the
> originator's SPF records.
> 
> The (simplified) route was:
> 
> Received: from pen.homeip.net 
> 
> Received: from v-msgmmp.gci.net by pen.homeip.net with POP3 (fetchmail-6.3.2)
> 
> Received: from msgmta-3.gci.net by mailstore-1.gci.net
>  
> Received: from psmtp.com by msgmta-3.gci.net
> 
> Received: from <aweb-site-of-mine> by exprod6mx139.postini.com

Urk. I suspect shipping all of your mail through Postini will make SPF
past that point useless. Do they do proper sender rewriting (SRS)?

> Received: from utl-lnx3.puk.ac.za by <aweb-site-of-mine>.com with

You MAY be able to get SPF within SA on pen.homeip.net to work by
extending your trusted hosts list out to include postini, or to
<aweb-site-of-mine>.com

> Received: from pcm-nov-gwia-server.puk.ac.za by utl-lnx3.puk.ac.za
> 
> Received: from PUKGWIA-MTA by pcm-nov-gwia-server.puk.ac.za   
> 
> The spf-fail was reported because  is msgmta-3.gci.net (my ISP)
> is not a sender for  puknet.puk.ac.za.

It sounds like <aweb-site-of-mine>.com should be on your trusted hosts
list. That would probable cue SA in to do the SPF tests from that POV
rather than from the POV of pen.homeip.net.

I'm not intimately familiar with trust path issues the way some others
here are. I don't know if having a trusted host in the middle of a
sequence of untrusted hosts will cause problems.

Alternatively, you may want to perform MTA SPF checks at
<aweb-site-of-mine>.com (assuming, of course, that you have the
necessary level of administrative access), as it is directly exposed
to inbound email from the Internet at large. You may also want to run
SA *there* (same assumption), unless pen.homeip.net aggregates several
mail feeds.

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