Matthias Haegele wrote:
Jari Fredriksson schrieb:
Matt wrote:
I have added botnet to my Spamassassin install.  It seems to have
helped quite a bit so far.  I am just wandering about the 5 points it
gives for a hit.  Is that too much?  Does it have alot of false
positives or not?

Matt

I have yet to see a hit, none so far in production (botnet been on for 5 days now).

Perhaps you use greylisting or similiar solutions already, or messages get blocked by Blacklists on MTA-Level?


In my experience, there are 3 things that have a really heavy overlap in effectiveness:

1) aggressive greet-pause/greeting-delay (say, 25+ seconds)

2) greylisting

3) Botnet


Each one will leak a little bit that the others can catch, but generally speaking, if you're doing one, you wont see much benefit with the others. Since they happen in the above order, that means that the aggressive greet-pause will keep you from seeing as much benefits with the others. The advantage of lessening your reliance on the lower numbered techniques is: less severe impact from false-positives (a false-positive from greet-pause, on a host that refuses to wait out your delay duration, is effectively blacklisted from ever talking to you, for example; but a host that triggers Botnet, even if you have a score of 5, is just going to get put into your spam folder or quarantine -- no where near as bad).

Then you add to that that since I last really analyzed this, pbl.spamhaus.org came into existence. That also seems to have some overlap with the purpose of Botnet. I'm not sure exactly how to add it to the above list, except that it comes before #3.

So, if you're doing zen.spamhaus.org or pbl.spamhaus.org as a block list, some amount of greet-pause, AND greylisting ... then Botnet may only trigger on a few messages.

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