On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 03:08:34 -0800, "Merlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
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> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:59:32 +0100, "Matthias Haegele"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > Merlin schrieb:
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > I am running a well trusted travel community page that sends system
> > > e-mails like register, notice on comments etc. to its opt-in signed up
> > > users.
> > >
> > > Since two days all E-Mails from that server get an aditional spam score
> > > of 3.5!! by Bayes_99. I looked it up and found that Spamassasin believes
> > > that it is to 99% spam by training from users. I believe there is more
> > > to it, as I can not believe that
> > > users mark such msges as spam. I also received another e-mail from
> > > another community page that was marked with Bayes_99 despite that it
> > > never has before. How come?! I looked into several red lists for my
> > > server, but the server is not listed anywhere. The only thing I found is
> > > that the server was not set with "reverse mapping" to the correct
> > > domain, but to the one the hostmaster has set before (it is a root
> > > server). Changed it yesterday to the domain name but still no change
> > > today. Still wrong host. Does this have something to do with Bayes_99?
> > >
> > > I am wondering how to get rid of this Bayes_99 thing and how to get to
> > > Bayes_00 that would be more suitable for that e-mail. Do I have to
> > > configure Postfix as the sending instance somehow with anything like
> > > truested server lists, or with anything else I might have overlooked by
> > > configuring it?
> > >
> > > Here is a header of a false positive:
> > >
> > > Subject: {SPAM 03.5} Feedback: lost password - please help
> > > X-Spam: spam
> > > X-Spam-score: 3.5
> > > X-Spam-hits: BAYES_99 3.5, BAYES_USED global
> > > X-Spam-source: IP='87.106.60.58',
> > > Host='s15229619.onlinehome-server.info', Country='DE',
> > > FromHeader='net', MailFrom='net'
> > >
> > > Thank you for any help,
> >
> > afaik the bayes results comes only from manual training and autolearn?
> > So the reverse dns, missing Pointer record is hit by another rule ...
> >
> > Perhaps you need to retrain the messages as ham (sa-learn --ham ...).
> > Or if your bayes-database is completely "poisoned" start from scratch.
> >
> > Perhaps you could show the bayes_mumble ...
> >
> > > Merlin
> >
> >
> > --
> > Greetings & hth
> > MH
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> > Dont send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Hi,
>
> thank you for your reply. I am not the one who can train ist. I am just
> running the server with
> the community that sends the messages. It is a big problem for me as if
> those e-mails do get false
> positive no more registration might be pssible etc.
>
> The funny thing is, that e-mails with almost identical content (for
> example notifications on forum
> replies) from other sites get even a Bayes_00 while mine get Bayes_99
> (that is true for the fastmail.fm e-mail
> provider). How come? Do you believe it has to do with the content, or
> the header? It must be the header as
> for example feedback msgs. that I receive through an online form also
> get marked with Bayes_99.
> The e-mails are sent through the PHPmailer class (opensource). I also
> looked there, but could not find a misconfig or so.
>
> Thank you for any help,
>
> Merlin
> --
> Merlin
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi,
thank you for your reply. I am not the one who can train ist. I am just
running the server with
the community that sends the messages. It is a big problem for me as if
those e-mails do get false
positive no more registration might be pssible etc.
The funny thing is, that e-mails with almost identical content (for
example notifications on forum
replies) from other sites get even a Bayes_00 while mine get Bayes_99
(that is true for the fastmail.fm e-mail
provider). How come? Do you believe it has to do with the content, or
the header? It must be the header as
for example feedback msgs. that I receive through an online form also
get marked with Bayes_99.
The e-mails are sent through the PHPmailer class (opensource). I also
looked there, but could not find a misconfig or so.
Thank you for any help,
Merlin
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Merlin
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