On Tuesday 21 July 2009, Bowie Bailey wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Tuesday 21 July 2009, Bowie Bailey wrote:

>>> make sure that you are running sa-learn as the same user SA is running
>>> as.  A classic mistake is to run SA as one user and then run sa-learn as
>>> a different user.
>>
>> Aha!  sa-learn is running from the root crontab, and is training the bayes
>> for the user gene, and kmail then suck /var/spool/mail/gene for the input
>> I'm reading.
>> The script is a bit complex and designed to do its own msg haandling.
>> -----------------------
>> #!/bin/bash
>> PATH=/sbin:/root/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
>> # make sure the database is free
>> killall fetchmail
>> # wait for the spamd pipes to drain
>> sleep 60
>> # do this dastardly deed
>> cp /root/Mail/ham/cur/* /home/gene/Mail/ham/cur/
>> cp /root/Mail/spam/cur/* /home/gene/Mail/spam/cur/
>> chown gene:gene /home/gene/Mail/ham/cur/*
>> chown gene:gene /home/gene/Mail/spam/cur/*
>> runuser -l gene -c "sa-learn --ham  /home/gene/Mail/ham/cur/*"
>> runuser -l gene -c "sa-learn --spam /home/gene/Mail/spam/cur/*"
>> # now, this stuff is trash
>> rm -f /home/gene/Mail/ham/cur/*
>> rm -f /home/gene/Mail/spam/cur/*
>> rm -f /root/Mail/spam/cur/*
>> # Note, I leave the ham for moving where it really goes
>> # and restore fetchmail
>> # and for some reason, on wednesday morning 12/17/08, fetchmail.log
>> # was owned by root:root! WTF???
>> # That is a long time for logrotate to take effect, which is the only
>> # other thing that could do this
>> # So: (and put it in rc.local too just for good measure)
>> chown gene:gene /var/log/fetchmail.log
>> # to let the disks synch
>> sleep 6
>> runuser -l gene -c "fetchmail -d 90 --fetchmailrc /home/gene/.fetchmailrc"
>> ------------------------
>> as can be seen, the mail delivery system all runs as the user gene.
>> So, in light of this, I should be running saupdate as gene, not as a
>> separate user.
>>
>> Thanks for the forehead slap Bowie, I needed that. :)
>
>Well, like I said before, sa-update has no relation to sa-learn.  As
>long as it is working properly, it does not matter what user you are
>using for sa-update.
>
>The question is: What user is SpamAssassin running as? 

Same user, gene.  Or at least htop says all the spamd children are running as 
gene.

>If you are
>running spamd as root, then it will switch itself to the user account
>who is receiving the mail.  If you are running using amavisd-new, it
>will run as the amavis user.

No amivis, new or old.

>If you are calling spamassassin directly
>from procmail or some other delivery agent,

Yes, from procmail.

>it will run as whichever
>user procmail (or whatever) is running as.  (Unless you have specified a
>global bayes database, in which case SA will always use that db.)
>
>One option is to disable your learning script for a while and then once
>all the users have received some auto-learned mail, search the home
>directories for the "bayes_seen" file and see which one(s) are being
>updated.

Only one user, me, aka root.
I think bayes_seen may have more than one copy though, but the only current 
one is:
-rw------- 1 gene gene 83636224 2009-07-21 22:41 
/home/gene/.spamassassin/bayes_seen

So that looks semi-kosher to me.  That is about 4 minutes ago.

Thanks.  I'll let the waters settle & clear & see how this works over the next 
few days.

-- 
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