> 
> I'd guess that you have a bayes expire running that is either 
> taking too long or not finishing and leaving lock files around.
> 
> Turn off bayes_auto_expire and use bayes_learn_to_journal.
> Add a cron job to periodically sa-learn --sync (say hourly) 
> and another cron job to do sa-learn --force-expire 
> (daily/weekly) -jeff
> 

thank you for the info and your time...  :-)

we do have the bayes_auto_expire turned off

and the forced expire is done at off peak hours once a day

 - rh

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