On 4/15/10 5:35 PM, Micah Anderson wrote:
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"The Distributed Checksum Clearinghouse source carries a license that is
free to organizations that do not sell filtering devices or services
except to their own users and that participate in the global DCC
network. . . you may not redistribute modified, "fixed," or "improved"
versions of the source or binaries. You also can't call it your own or
blame anyone for the results of using it."
Which seems silly for debian to remove it, since many of the blacklists in SA are by default, licensed similar (free for non commercial use, paid if > xxx queries). maybe debian should look through and remove ALL 'dual licensed' software, and when you install SA from the RPM's, disable the dual licensed RBL's.

Or, hey, lets pretend the people installing debian are smart enough to be able to make up their own mind if they fit the free license model.

So I guess I just will remove dcc, that is a shame, it seems like a good
service.


it IS a good service, and SA 3.3x supports the reputation query directly now in the commercial license.
Some things to understand,  (normal language vs legal talk)

   * if you are doing > 100,000 queries a day (100,000 emails a day hit
     SA, and thus dcc), its a lot better, and faster to use a local dcc
     server.
   * If you are using the public servers, their is a built in 1000ms
     delay (so if you are using < 100K queries a day, its faster to use
     the commercial service)
   * public servers don't have the reputations scores (see new scores
     for dcc..).  double the accuracy.
   * if you are an isp, just using it for your customers, you don't
     need to pay for the commercial license (no reputation, still
     1000ms delays to public servers)
   * (but you still might want to.  its CHEAP, faster by 1000ms per
     query, and with DCC reputations, more accurate)

DCC reputations not only allows SA to score on the fuzzy checksums of the emails, but score on the 'bulk vs non bulk' reputation of the sending ip.

zero day spams (bulk!) from known bulk sources can be picked up immediately.
zero say zombots with known spam (bulk) using a new ip can be picked up immediately with old scores.

the combination of this makes it very accurate, both with catching new bulk providers, and cutting down on FP's.

did I say its CHEAP, and if you are an isp using it for your own customers you don't need a license?
If you aren't an appliance vendor

you own it to yourself to at least ASK vernon how much.

(disclaimer: I don't sell DCC, don't know why I am advising competitors to use DCC since it is one of our advantages, but I like the product, the service and I like vernon)


   *




what did you upgrade?
Sorry, I upgraded from Debian etch to Debian Lenny, along with that came
an upgrade to spamassassin.

micah





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