On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:49 PM, Christian Laußat <us...@spamassassin.shambhu.info> 
wrote:

> Am 07.06.2014 19:55, schrieb Franck Martin:
>> As DMARC provide a feedback mechanism to the sender, then it is up to
>> the sender to deal with these issues, you are just following their
>> policy, you don’t need to or have to to second guess them. You can use
>> some whitelists in openDMARC for some streams you really care about,
>> like mailing lists. There are usually not too many.
>> The default option of openDMARC is to not reject, as to avoid if you
>> forgot opendkim or spf, and start to reject all the incoming mail…
>> Once you are happy with the config, you ought to change that option.
> 
> The problem is that the sender is not the postmaster, so if e.g. yahoo.com 
> had changed its policy to p=reject, many sender had been blocked without even 
> knowing why. There are many postmaster who think they understood DMARC and 
> set a wrong policy. For human interaction DMARC policy should be p=none. And 
> p=reject should only be used for automatic mailing systems e.g. shopping 
> systems and banks.

This is not correct. I think it is strange to claim that yahoo or aol, being a 
co-creator of DMARC and having outstanding engineers in the profession do not 
know what they are doing.

> 
> So it's your decision if you would risk to loose some e-mail, but for me it 
> is a just another indicator for SpamAssassin to rate the mail.

Because of the monitoring mode, when you move to p=reject, with all the 
aggregate reports, you know exactly how much mail you will loose. As you take 
control of your email streams it becomes a sweet point where fixing exact 
domain spoofing is more interesting than losing some emails. Your mileage may 
vary.

> 
> If you let OpenDMARC block on policy failures, why don't you let OpenDKIM 
> block on DKIM failures and SPF-milter on SPF failures? Blocking on only one 
> criteria leads to many false positives. That's the power of SpamAssasin, to 
> combine many rating points and then decide if it*s spam or not.
> 
DKIM and SPF do not have a reporting to the sender to tell them how many emails 
were blocked/rejected. DKIM does not have a policy method, only SPF. So as a 
sender with SPF -all you have no idea how many emails are blocked, very few are 
willing to take that risk. With DMARC, you know exactly which emails are 
getting blocked/rejected.

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