I went through this exact same process and eventually gave it up for
hopeless and stuck with 4.0.x, figuring that if it was this difficult
just to acquire and run the thing, it certainly wouldn't be ready for
production development yet.  Someone should definitely get this info
into some visible documentation somewhere, or the only people who are
going to be using 4.1 are those who are already experienced maven
users.  JMHO.

--sam


On 9/18/06, Irv Salisbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I added these lines to the Workbench pom.xml and it all compiles fine:

        <dependency>
            <groupId>javax.servlet</groupId>
            <artifactId>servlet-api</artifactId>
        </dependency>

Irv

On 9/18/06, Irv Salisbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That did work for timetracker.
>
> On building workbench, I get a TON of these types of messages:
>
> [WARNING] Unable to get resource from repository mortbay-repo 
(http://www.mortbay.org/maven2/snapshot
> )
> Downloading: 
http://people.apache.org/repo/m2-snapshot-repository/org/apache/maven/shared/file-management/1.0/file-management-1.0.pom
>
> [WARNING] Unable to get resource from repository apache.snapshots (
> http://people.apache.org/repo/m2-snapshot-repository)
> Downloading:
> 
http://howardlewisship.com/repository/org/apache/maven/shared/file-management/1.0/file-management-1.0.pom
> [WARNING] Unable to get resource from repository tapestry.javaforge 
(http://howardlewisship.com/repository
> )
> Downloading: 
http://snapshots.repository.codehaus.org/org/apache/maven/shared/file-management/1.0/file-management-1.0.pom
>
> [WARNING] Unable to get resource from repository codehaus.org (
> http://snapshots.repository.codehaus.org)
> Downloading:
> 
http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/shared/file-management/1.0/file-management-1.0.pom
> 1K downloaded
> Downloading:
> 
http://www.mortbay.org/maven2/snapshot/org/apache/maven/shared/shared-components-parent/1/shared-components-parent-1.pom
> [WARNING] Unable to get resource from repository mortbay-repo 
(http://www.mortbay.org/maven2/snapshot
> )
> Downloading: 
http://people.apache.org/repo/m2-snapshot-repository/org/apache/maven/shared/shared-components-parent/1/shared-components-parent-1.pom
>
> [WARNING] Unable to get resource from repository apache.snapshots (
> http://people.apache.org/repo/m2-snapshot-repository)
> Downloading:
> 
http://howardlewisship.com/repository/org/apache/maven/shared/shared-components-parent/1/shared-components-parent-1.pom
> [WARNING] Unable to get resource from repository tapestry.javaforge 
(http://howardlewisship.com/repository
> )
> Downloading: 
http://snapshots.repository.codehaus.org/org/apache/maven/shared/shared-components-parent/1/shared-components-parent-1.pom
>
> [WARNING] Unable to get resource from repository codehaus.org (
> http://snapshots.repository.codehaus.org)
> Downloading:
> 
http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/shared/shared-components-parent/1/shared-components-parent-1.pom
>
>
>
> On 9/18/06, Martin Strand < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Not sure why the workbench won't compile for you... it works here. :\
> > The timetracker appears to have duplicate jars:
> > - tapestry-annotations-4.1.1-SNAPSHOT.jar
> > - tapestry-annotations-4.1.1-20060827.214823-24.jar
> >
> > Don't know where the second jar came from, perhaps you could try "mvn
> > clean install" (add -Dmaven.test.skip=true to skip tests)
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 05:48:52 +0200, Irv Salisbury
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Ok, so other than getting like 100 WARNING messages that resource XYZ
> > > could
> > > not be loaded, I am trying to build and run the example apps.  The
> > vlib
> > > ones
> > > seem to just create jars, so they won't tell me much.  The TimeTracker
> >
> > > builds a WAR file, but when deployed, I get this error (tomcat 5.5.17on
> > > OSX
> > > intel box):
> > >
> > > 1-SNAPSHOT] [ERROR] Servlet /tapestry-TimeTracker-4.1.1-SNAPSHOT threw
> > > load() exception
> > > org.apache.hivemind.ApplicationRuntimeException: Error: Module
> > > tapestry.annotation is duplicated!  Definition in
> > > jar:file:/Users/irving/work/apache/apache-tomcat-5.5.17
> > /webapps/tapestry-
> > > TimeTracker-4.1.1-SNAPSHOT /WEB-INF/lib/tapestry-
> > > annotations-4.1.1-SNAPSHOT.jar!/META-INF/hivemodule.xml has been
> > ignored
> > > in
> > > favor of existing definition from
> > > jar:file:/Users/irving/work/apache/apache-
> > > tomcat-5.5.17 /webapps/tapestry-TimeTracker-4.1.1-SNAPSHOT
> > > /WEB-INF/lib/tapestry-
> > > annotations-4.1.1-20060827.214823-24.jar!/META-INF/hivemodule.xml.
> > >         at org.apache.hivemind.impl.StrictErrorHandler.error(
> > > StrictErrorHandler.java:39)
> > >         at
> > >
> > 
org.apache.hivemind.impl.RegistryInfrastructureConstructor.addModuleDescriptor
> > > (RegistryInfrastructureConstructor.java:202)
> > >         at
> > >
> > org.apache.hivemind.impl.RegistryBuilder.processModuleDescriptorProvider(
> > > RegistryBuilder.java:168)
> > >         at org.apache.hivemind.impl.RegistryBuilder.constructRegistry(
> > > RegistryBuilder.java:143)
> > >         at org.apache.tapestry.ApplicationServlet.constructRegistry (
> > > ApplicationServlet.java:253)
> > >         at org.apache.tapestry.ApplicationServlet.init(
> > > ApplicationServlet.java:194)
> > >         at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper.loadServlet(
> > > StandardWrapper.java:1105)
> > >         at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper.load(
> > > StandardWrapper.java:932)
> > >         at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.loadOnStartup(
> > > StandardContext.java :3917)
> > >         at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start(
> > > StandardContext.java:4201)
> > >         at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChildInternal(
> > > ContainerBase.java:759)
> > >         at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChild(
> > > ContainerBase.java:739)
> > >         at
> > > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.addChild(StandardHost.java
> > > :524)
> > >         at
> > > org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployWAR (HostConfig.java
> > > :809)
> > >         at
> > > org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployWARs(HostConfig.java
> > > :698)
> > >         at
> > > org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployApps(HostConfig.java
> > > :472)
> > >         at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.check(
> > HostConfig.java
> > > :1190)
> > >         at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.lifecycleEvent(
> > > HostConfig.java:292)
> > >         at
> > org.apache.catalina.util.LifecycleSupport.fireLifecycleEvent(
> > > LifecycleSupport.java:119)
> > >         at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.backgroundProcess(
> > > ContainerBase.java:1305)
> > >         at
> > >
> > 
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase$ContainerBackgroundProcessor.processChildren
> > > (ContainerBase.java:1569)
> > >         at
> > >
> > 
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase$ContainerBackgroundProcessor.processChildren
> > > (ContainerBase.java:1578)
> > >         at
> > >
> > org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase$ContainerBackgroundProcessor.run(
> > > ContainerBase.java:1558)
> > >         at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:613)
> > >
> > > So, I then moved onto Workbench, and getting this error on compile:
> > >
> > > 
/Users/irving/work/apache/tapestry-4.1-src/tapestry-examples/Workbench/src/java/org/apache/tapestry/workbench/RequestDecoder.java:[17,26]
> >
> > > package javax.servlet.http does not exist
> > >
> > > /Users/irving/work/apache/tapestry-4.1-src
> > 
/tapestry-examples/Workbench/src/java/org/apache/tapestry/workbench/RequestDecoder.java:[42,40]
> > > cannot find symbol
> > > symbol  : class HttpServletRequest
> > > location: class org.apache.tapestry.workbench.RequestDecoder
> > >
> > > 
/Users/irving/work/apache/tapestry-4.1-src/tapestry-examples/Workbench/src/java/org/apache/tapestry/workbench/chart/ChartService.java:[95,29]
> >
> > > cannot access javax.servlet.http.HttpServletResponse
> > > file javax/servlet/http/HttpServletResponse.class not found
> > >                 JPEGEncoder13.encode(chart, 1.0f, output);
> > >
> > > Looks like some standard servlet stuff isn't getting pulled in as a
> > > compile
> > > time jar need.  I will look into that, but thought I'd include errors
> > a
> > > newbie was having upon initial trials (in hopes that this will be
> > > archived
> > > in case other newbies have the same problem)
> > >
> > > Thanks for any info.
> > >
> > > Irv
> > >
> > > On 9/17/06, Irv Salisbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> That was exactly what I was looking for.  Thanks, this will get me
> > >> started.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Irv
> > >>
> > >> On 9/17/06, Martin Strand < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Yeah, Maven is definitely the "greased path" here. :)
> > >> > If you checkout the whole tapestry project, you can run "mvn
> > >> > -Dmaven.test.skip=true install" to compile everything and install
> > the
> > >> > jars
> > >> > in your local repository:
> > >> >
> > >> > [INFO] Tapestry ..............................................
> > SUCCESS
> > >> > [1.125s]
> > >> > [INFO] Core Library ..........................................
> > SUCCESS
> > >> > [8.141s]
> > >> > [INFO] Contrib ...............................................
> > SUCCESS
> > >> > [1.656s]
> > >> > [INFO] Annotations ...........................................
> > SUCCESS
> > >> > [0.547s]
> > >> > [INFO] Portlet ...............................................
> > SUCCESS
> > >> > [0.531s]
> > >> > [INFO] Examples ..............................................
> > SUCCESS
> > >> > [0.031s]
> > >> > [INFO] Tapestry Virtual Library (Beans) ......................
> > SUCCESS
> > >> > [0.235s]
> > >> > [INFO] Tapestry Virtual Library ..............................
> > SUCCESS
> > >> > [0.312s]
> > >> > [INFO] Tapestry Time Tracker .................................
> > SUCCESS
> > >> > [1.250s]
> > >> > [INFO] Tapestry Workbench ....................................
> > SUCCESS
> > >> > [0.891s]
> > >> > [INFO]
> > >> >
> > >>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> > [INFO]
> > >> >
> > >>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> > [INFO] BUILD SUCCESSFUL
> > >> > [INFO]
> > >> >
> > >>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> > [INFO] Total time: 15 seconds
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > To build the examples, move to the /tapestry-examples dir and run
> > the
> > >> > same
> > >> > thing. You'll now have the example wars in your local repo as well
> > as
> > >> in
> > >> >
> > >> > the /target/ dir of each example
> > >> > (tapestry/tapestry-examples/TimeTracker/target/tapestry-
> > >> > TimeTracker-4.1.1-SNAPSHOT.war).
> > >> >
> > >> > Maven uses these lifecycle phases instead of targets:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > 
http://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-the-lifecycle.html
> > >> >
> > >> > Martin
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 04:55:43 +0200, Irv Salisbury
> > >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >> > > Thanks, I should have been clearer... My bad.  I know to put
> > those
> > >> in
> > >> > > there.  In the 4.02 stuff I downloaded and got working fine,
> > there
> > >> > > seemed to
> > >> > > be a directory structure that was the "greased path" to pull in
> > >> > > hivemind.  I
> > >> > > basically copied what was in examples to get it working, called
> > the
> > >> > ant
> > >> > > targets and everything worked fine.  In the 4.1 manual download,
> > >> all I
> > >> > > get
> > >> > > is a bunch of jar files, no examples.  So, when I meant "what to
> > do
> > >> > with
> > >> > > those" I more meant how to structure a 4.1 app for building.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > It looks like I should just use maven for doing this, as it is
> > the
> > >> > > "greased
> > >> > > path".   Would that be easiest?  The doc pages don't really help
> > for
> > >> > 4.1.
> > >> > > They are great for 4.0x.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Of course, whenever I run any of the maven targets, sometimes it
> > is
> > >> > able
> > >> > > to
> > >> > > connect to the repositories, sometimes it isn't.  That is always
> > fun
> > >> > > about
> > >> > > using maven.  Guess that is another topic for later.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > So, assuming I am sitting on a fresh svn checkout of the
> > repository.
> > >> > > What
> > >> > > maven "targets" should I call?  Also, inside tapestry-examples,
> > are
> > >> > there
> > >> > > maven "targets" to call there?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Irv
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Is eve
> > >> > > On 9/17/06, Martin Strand <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> > so I need to know what to do with those
> > >> > >> Not sure what you mean... put them in WEB-INF/lib?
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> If you don't use Maven you will need to download the
> > dependencies
> > >> > >> manually, they are listed here:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> 
http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4.1/tapestry-framework/dependencies.html
> >
> > >> >
> > >> > >> You'll need to get everything under "compile" and "provided" and
> > >> also
> > >> > >> "commons-io" under "transitive" -> "compile"
> > >> > >> (However, I doubt tapestry-testng is needed)
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Once you've got all the jars in WEB-INF/lib, Tapestry 4.1.1should
> > >> > work
> > >> > >> fine. :)
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Martin
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 04:15:21 +0200, Irv Salisbury
> > >> > >> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> > Ok, so our project uses ant, not maven2.  Am I best off
> > getting
> > >> the
> > >> > >> > subversion like I am?  Or should i get the last 4.1 build
> > (which
> > >> > was a
> > >> > >> > bunch
> > >> > >> > of jar files so I need to know what to do with those)
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > Thanks for being patient guys.  I realize with just starting
> > with
> > >> > >> > tapestry I
> > >> > >> > am biting off a bit much with 4.1, but that is the only
> > version
> > >> > that
> > >> > >> will
> > >> > >> > give us the dojo ajax stuff we need.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > Irv
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > On 9/17/06, Irv Salisbury < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> I don't absolutely, but i need a 4.1 version.  I don't
> > >> understand
> > >> > >> that
> > >> > >> >> much about the maven repo.  How do I use the 4.1.1-SNAPSHOTfrom
> > >> > the
> > >> > >> >> maven
> > >> > >> >> repo?
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> Thanks,
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> Irv
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> On 9/17/06, Martin Strand < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > Are you absolutely sure you need the latest bleeding edge
> > >> > version?
> > >> > >> >> > I use 4.1.1-SNAPSHOT from the Maven repo and it works fine:
> > >> > >> >> > http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4.1/download.html
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > Martin
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 03:08:55 +0200, Irv Salisbury
> > >> > >> >> > < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > > Upon doing an mvn compile, I am getting this warning:
> > >> > >> >> > >
> > >> > >> >> > > [WARNING]
> > >> > >> >> > >         Artifact commons-logging:commons-logging:jar:
> > 1.0.4
> > >> > >> retains
> > >> > >> >> > local
> > >> > >> >> > > scope 'provided' overriding broader scope 'compile'
> > >> > >> >> > >         given by a dependency. If this is not intended,
> > >> modify
> > >> > or
> > >> > >> >> > remove
> > >> > >> >> > > the
> > >> > >> >> > > local scope.
> > >> > >> >> > >
> > >> > >> >> > > then, I get an error:
> > >> > >> >> > >
> > >> > >> >> > >
> > >> > >> >> /Users/irving/work/apache/tapestry- 4.1-src
> > >> > >>
> > >> >
> > >>
> > 
/tapestry-annotations/src/java/org/apache/tapestry/annotations/AnnotationMessages.java:[30,55]
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > > cannot access org.apache.commons.logging.Log
> > >> > >> >> > > file org/apache/commons/logging/Log.class not found
> > >> > >> >> > >     private static final MessageFormatter _formatter =
> > new
> > >> > >> >> > > MessageFormatter(
> > >> > >> >> > >
> > >> > >> >> > > I realize 4.1 is pretty new, but we really need the ajax
> > >> > stuff.
> > >> > >> Of
> > >> > >> >> > > course,
> > >> > >> >> > > 4.0.2 went very smoothly.  I guess I am just more used to
> > >> ant.
> > >> > >> Any
> > >> > >> >> > > pages or
> > >> > >> >> > > docs that I can be pointed to for buidling or using 4.1
> > >> would
> > >> > be
> > >> > >> >> > great!
> > >> > >> >> > >
> > >> > >> >> > > Thanks
> > >> > >> >> > >
> > >> > >> >> > > Irv
> > >> > >> >> > >
> > >> > >> >> > > On 9/17/06, Irv Salisbury < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >> > >> >> > >>
> > >> > >> >> > >> As an update, I did get the subversion source.  I was
> > able
> > >> to
> > >> > >> build
> > >> > >> >> > most
> > >> > >> >> > >> of it, but the annotations are dying upon build.  I am
> > >> > building
> > >> > >> on
> > >> > >> >> > OSX.
> > >> > >> >> > >>
> > >> > >> >> > >> So, i went into the examples directory and did mvn
> > compile,
> > >> > >> which
> > >> > >> >> > seemed
> > >> > >> >> > >> to build fine.  I am trying to figure out how to get a
> > war
> > >> > file
> > >> > >> >> now.
> > >> > >> >> > >> Did a
> > >> > >> >> > >> mvn war but that didn't work.  Didn't see anything at
> > the
> > >> > build
> > >> > >> >> pages
> > >> > >> >> > >> on how
> > >> > >> >> > >> to do that.
> > >> > >> >> > >>
> > >> > >> >> > >> Irv
> > >> > >> >> > >>
> > >> > >> >> > >>
> > >> > >> >> > >> On 9/17/06, Irv Salisbury < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >> > >> > Yes, I already looked at that page as I said in my
> > >> > email.  The
> > >> > >> >> > first
> > >> > >> >> > >> > thing it tells you is you can download the official
> > >> > >> >> > jar-only.  Doing
> > >> > >> >> > >> that
> > >> > >> >> > >> > for 4.02 comes with a whole directory structure that
> > was
> > >> > >> >> reasonably
> > >> > >> >> > >> easy
> > >> > >> >> > >> > to follow how to use the examples, etc.  That was
> > fine.
> > >> I
> > >> > >> then
> > >> > >> >> did
> > >> > >> >> > >> that for
> > >> > >> >> > >> > 4.1 and just a bunch of jar files came down.  Am I
> > >> supposed
> > >> > to
> > >> > >> >> > extract
> > >> > >> >> > >> > all those?  Is there something else to do?  The README
> > >> > didn't
> > >> > >> >> seem
> > >> > >> >> > to
> > >> > >> >> > >> point
> > >> > >> >> > >> > to anything.
> > >> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >> > >> > The second instructions are to add something to your
> > >> > project's
> > >> > >> >> pom
> > >> > >> >> > >> > file.  Our project doesn't have a pom file, and we
> > aren't
> > >> > >> using
> > >> > >> >> > >> maven2.  We
> > >> > >> >> > >> > don't want to use maven2 for our project unless we
> > have
> > >> to.
> > >> >
> > >> > >> We
> > >> > >> >> use
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > >> ant
> > >> > >> >> > >> > only.
> > >> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >> > >> > So, I am back at my original question.  What is the
> > >> > preferred
> > >> > >> >> way,
> > >> > >> >> > >> > specifically for 4.1 to build and work with it.  I
> > have
> > >> > >> >> downloaded
> > >> > >> >> > >> > source using subversion and pulled maven down and am
> > >> > building
> > >> > >> >> that
> > >> > >> >> > >> way.  Am
> > >> > >> >> > >> > I on the right track?  I realize 4.1 is brand new, but
> > I
> > >> > just
> > >> > >> >> want
> > >> > >> >> > to
> > >> > >> >> > >> > make sure I am going down the right path.
> > >> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >> > >> > Irv
> > >> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >> > >> > On 9/17/06, Norbert Sándor < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >> >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > I recommend you to explore the demo applications.
> > They
> > >> > >> already
> > >> > >> >> > have
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > the
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > appropriate file structure, dependencies, etc.
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > For download instructions, see
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4.1/download.html
> > >> > >> >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > Regards,
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > Norbi
> > >> > >> >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > Irv Salisbury wrote:
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > > We are trying to explore Tapestry 4.1.  We are
> > also
> > >> not
> > >> > >> that
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > familiar
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > > with
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > > maven.  I downloaded the "official jar" release,
> > but
> > >> I
> > >> > had
> > >> > >> >> > trouble
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > > figuring
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > > out what to do with the jar files.
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > >
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > > Can someone give me help on the preferred way to
> > >> > download
> > >> > >> and
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > install
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > > 4.1 to
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > > get started.  It is our first Tapestry app, so
> > keep
> > >> > that
> > >> > >> in
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > mind.  We did
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > > download 4.02 and were able to get a small app
> > >> working
> > >> > in
> > >> > >> >> that.
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > >
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > > Should I use subversion, etc?
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > >
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > > Thanks,
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > >
> > >> > >> >> > >> > > > Irv
> >
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