Confusion avoidance (my approach):

Eclipse - simply do not use. IntelliJ works more
reliably and predictably, it works as "expected" and
has controls where expected.

Jetty vs Tomcat vs ... - Tomcat, removing everything
from webapps/ and all the admin application context
configurations from conf/Catalina/localhost makes it
as fast as Jetty for all practical purposes.

Plugins, deployments etc. - one extra command line
window that has rinning command "catalina.(sh|bat)
run" takes care of everything. 


--- Murray Collingwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> Does anybody else find this hellishly confusing?  It
> makes me want to throw
> everything out and go back to a nice simple DOS
> system and a Turbo C compiler! 
> How much simpler it was back then...
> 
> Okay, I downloaded the latest Eclipse system, copied
> my project into a fresh
> workspace.  Saving a file was back to a sub-second
> response.  Actually I tried
> saving a second file to make sure it wasn't a fluke
> the first time.  There was
> definitely a problem somewhere and it has now gone
> away.
> 
> Okay, now the second part of the problem.
> 
> Tomcat or Jetty???
> 
> I don't want to package every time I make a small
> change to a config file or
> HTML, so I want the servlet engine to use my files
> from my development area.  My
> previous frustrations with restarting tomcat have
> encouraged me down the Jetty
> track - I downloaded Jetty 6 yesterday and the test
> system was working in about
> 5 minutes, pretty good.  I then added a context.xml
> for my application and now
> when I start Jetty it simple crashes and refuses to
> start the application.  I
> get an error like:  'No class for Servlet or Filter'
> 
> I haven't been able to find any help on this error.
> 
> I did find information on a Jetty-Maven-Plugin but
> form my reading this is all
> about packaging the application - I don't want to go
> there.  I also found a
> number of recent comments about Maven2 saying it was
> still quite buggy.
> 
> Do I press ahead trying to solve the Jetty stuff or
> do I revert back to a Tomcat
> system....???
> 
> I'm developing in a Windows XP environment so this
> may limit me from some of the
> options suggested here.
> 
> PS Thanks to everybody who has contributed so far -
> I really appreciate your
> ideas and suggestions.  You really are a very
> friendly bunch of people.
> 
> PPS My computer is an Intel 2.8ghz processor with
> 1gb ram and 80gb harddrive. 
> It's not slow with other stuff.
> 
> Cheers
> Murray
> 
> Some of my understandings:
> Sysdeo-tomcat-plugin - packages app and restarts
> Tomcat
> WTP - packages app and restarts Tomcat
> Web Standard Tools - I was using this
> AJDT - never used it
> Jetty6 plugin - is this the Jetty-maven-plugin
> referred above of different?
> 
> 
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PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth, humans will add fifteen million 
tons of carbon to the atmosphere, destroy 115 square miles of tropical 
rainforest, create seventy-two miles of desert, eliminate between forty to one 
hundred species, erode seventy-one million tons of topsoil, add 2,700 tons of 
CFCs to the stratosphere, and increase their population by 263,000

Bowers, C.A.  The Culture of Denial:  Why the Environmental Movement Needs a 
Strategy for Reforming Universities and Public Schools.  New York:  State 
University of New York Press, 1997: (4) (5) (p.206)

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