You can use pretty much any IDE to develop your web application, but
Howard (the creator) as well as most people on the list use Eclipse,
so if you need IDE-specific help, you're most likely to get it here
with Eclipse as your tool.
For application server (aka servlet container), again, you can use
anything (Tomcat, Resin, Jetty, JBoss, WebSphere, etc), but one that
is heavily preferred here is Jetty, for its speed and simplicity.
Again, you'll eliminate tons of potential problems related to app
server setup if you choose Jetty at least for you local development.
For example, under Jetty Tapestry live class reloading works
flawlessly, but not so under Tomcat (due to Tomcat's internal design,
specifically it's classloader design).
Other than those two, you're free to use any technology. Tapestry has
a great support for Hibernate, so if you choose that you'll be right
at home. I personally use iBatis, and have had no problems integrating
it with Tapestry. Spring is also very well supported, but really, not
needed since one of Spring's biggest advantages, it's IOC container,
has built-in functionality in Tapestry. What I mean is that Tapestry
has a fantastic IOC container itself, which pretty much eliminates the
need for Spring. If you need AOP, integrating AspectJ should work just
as well. I wrote few applications in Tapestry 5 where the only part of
Spring I used was spring-core, spring-dao and spring-jdbc, to take
advantage of Spring data access layer. Tapestry is very, very flexible
in regards what technology stack you want to use with it.
If you're used to logging with Log4J this may be a bit of change to
you, as Tapestry uses simple logging facade rather than commons
logging. What this means, you won't be using Log4J directly in your
apps as you may have in the past, instead you'll be using Logger class
from http://www.slf4j.org/. It takes a while getting used to, because
at first I would find myself using Log4J in non-Tapestry classes
anyway (just a habit) rather than pulling in slf4j.
Finally, Tapestry 5 is a world-class code! If you have a chance take a
look at it's sources. It reads like a poem, simply put, it's a
masterpiece. What I mean by that is that it follows all the best
practices, desgin patterns, and everything a programmer should be
doing. You can learn a great bit about system design by following
patterns used by Tapestry itself.
It really helps to be very famliar with Inversion of Control, as
Tapestry implements it quite differently than what many newcommers are
used to. Using dependencies is very easy, as you found from the book,
just do @Inject, @InjectPage etc and bam! it's there. Setting up your
own (dao's, etc) is different though, as you build a "module" with
build methods or bindings, I'd recommend to get very familiar with
Tapestry IOC section on the website:
http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-ioc/.
Other than that, I can only say Tapestry 5 is a pleasure to work with!
It's power is amazing, anything can be changed and configured, so if
you're ever thinking, jeez I don't like this or that default, what
now? Just send and e-mail to this list, and you'll see it most likely
can be changed the way you want it.
Enjoy!
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 3:40 AM, mark lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
sorry,i mean what technology do you use in you web application?
such as tapestry ,spring ,hibernate,cvs,eclipse,etc.
thank you for your help!!
Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote:
Hi,
I'm hardly an expert. I just read the docs and keep an eye on the
commits and JIRA issues. :)
All the advice I can give is that you read ALL the docs on T5 and go
from there. Learning Spring is not necessary with T5 IoC. Hibernate is a
very good framework to know, though - I use it extensively myself.
I can't recommend a database for you, it depends on the kind of
application you want to make, your budget, where you deploy, etc.
What do you mean by what "knowledges" I use?
-Filip
mark lu skrev:
Alexander 's book based on 5.0.6.
i think you must be an expert in tapestry!
i want to build my web application,cound you give me some advices?
what other knowledges do i need except for tapestry?do i need learn
spring
or hibernate?
Alexander recommend db4o as a database,how about you advice?
what knowledges do you use in you web applicaton?
thanks!!
Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote:
Hi there,
Welcome to the list. :)
Alexander's book is based on Tapestry 5.0.7 or so, I believe. The
current beta version is 5.0.11 with 5.0.12 available as snapshots.
As T5 was alpha when Alexander wrote the book, there have been quite a
few changes since then. You can see some of them at
http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-core/upgrade.html.
If there's anything else that doesn't work I'd advise you to check out
the relevant docs at the website, and if that doesn't solve your
problem, send a mail to this list. We'll probably be able to tell you
what's going on.
Regarding T5 applications, I've had one site running since December 2,
2007 and another site up since August, 2007.
-Filip
On 2008-05-20 17:27, mark lu wrote:
i am new to tapestry.
i just want to use t5 to build my application and i don't want to learn
the
inner technology of t5.
so,what's the stable version of t5?
i have read Alexander Kolesnikov's book--tapestry 5 build web
application,and know something about t5.
however,during my studying process,i encountered some problem even
though
i
have followed the book.
so,i think it's the framework's bug,maybe.
so...who can help me?
another question:
whoever have built a application using t5 already?
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