We're using Continuum to do continuous builds. Gave the designer access to
that too and when he wants to see his changes, he commits and kicks off a
manual build. Pretty cool.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> That's cool about your HTML designer; I always picture it as a pair
> programming deal, with the coder running the app so that the designer
> can view changes.
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Daniel Leffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Hi Howard,
> > Absolutely happy to share.
> >
> > We're running .12 because .13 happened too close to the release and we
> > didn't want to introduce any more changes. We're planning on moving to
> .13
> > at the next release.
> >
> > There are 27 pages on the site, although the bulk of the functionality
> > exists on about 12 of them. The site is heavily componentized though -
> there
> > are 19 components we created and reuse throughout the site. Making heavy
> use
> > of components has really aided in the build and iterate cycle because of
> the
> > way that we isolated functionality within them - many of the pages are
> > nothing more than containers for lots of independent components.
> >
> > There were 3 developers on the project working part time over the past 4
> > months. Much of that effort was in building back-end services, aim/gtalk
> > integration and statistics computation. I'd estimate that around 30% of
> the
> > effort was on the front-end and I regard that as a credit to T5 more than
> > the complexity of the back-end.
> >
> > One fantastic point to make (which isn't unique to T5 but Tapestry more
> > over) is the fact that for our HTML/CSS developer, we actually were able
> to
> > give him SVN access and he, without Java experience (much less Tapestry),
> > was able to make pretty large modification to page and component layouts.
> > That was awesome to not have to bother Java developers with!
> >
> > Danny
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I'd love it if you could share some details about it, such as number
> >> of pages, number of developers, and size of developer effort.
> >>
> >> Looks like you are on .12-SNAPSHOT.  Plans to upgrade to .13?
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Daniel Leffel <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Guys,
> >> > I just wanted to pass along a site that we've just launched:
> >> > www.ingamenow.com. The site is best described as Twitter for sports
> and
> >> > sporting events. Users can interact over teams, players and games -
> most
> >> > notable, they can receive real-time scores and banter through Gtalk,
> AOL
> >> > Instant Messenger and email.
> >> >
> >> > The front-end is Tapestry 5 making use of a few of the AJAX features.
> I
> >> > believe strongly that using T5 sped the development immensely and all
> >> > members of the teams are converts now.
> >> >
> >> > The rest of the architecture is Spring + Hibernate.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks to Howard and everyone who has helped make Tapestry what it is
> >> today!
> >> >
> >> > Danny
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> >>
> >> Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
> >>
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