I would love to see your code samples! Also, a blog posting some good examples from your work would probably be another great resource for the T5-community. You're very right that we need good examples of complex interactions made easy by T5.
Regards Inge On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Vangel V. Ajanovski <a...@ii.edu.mk> wrote: > On 28.10.2009 08:36, Inge Solvoll wrote: > >> I would love to see a positive and helpful response to this request. His >> approach might annoy a few people here, but I encourage you to take this >> kind of thing seriously. I believe there are a lot of people feeling the >> way >> Argo feels about the framework, and he does hit a few good points on the >> way, about good examples and documentation. >> >> > Before going with Tapestry I have read lot's of comments and powerpoints > and blog discussions and web framework comparison talks and all of them had > a single major drawback about Tapestry, no matter if version 3 or 4 or 5. It > was supposedly very hard to learn, but once you would get into it there > should be no limits. :) > > If one has previously worked with php and asp, then learning the whole java > stack and the specifics of Tapestry will require at least a month of hard > experimentation and reading. > Some of you suggest mixins (while he may not know what a mixin is), some of > you suggest 3rd party components (some of which have almost zero > documentation on installation and usage). > > I think that the tapestry site really really needs a demo where one can see > a page or two from a full-blown application with complicated user > interaction and rich web interface and a complete up2date tutorial on how > would one build that page. > > Jumpstart is great for learning the working of various components, but when > one is a beginner he will need a full set of relevant tutorials and guides > how to build something that is complicated. > > I have a similar misshap as Argo has these days, I have to code a semi > complex interaction that mimics an OLAP database and drag-and-drop modules > for reporting with pivot tables and I have to build it in under one week > with ASP.NET and MySQL. And the last time i have tried a Microsoft > development tool was when Visual Basic 1.0 was Beta and it came on three > 5.25" installation floppy disks. > So I think that I fully understand Argo-s worries, being in a similar > position. > > I could send you a link to the latest Tapestry application that we are > building which does have several complicated dynamic pages and ajax, but > there is almost no documentation in English at this point and there is a > huge database schema that sits behind the application whch makes it harder > to delve into. It will open-source once we decide on the licencing model and > finish the release requirements, so I wouldn't put it completely in public, > but I can send the code of some of the more complicated web pages to anyone > that is interested in learning, just send me an email. > > Once I have some spare time I promise that I will try to strip them apart > from unnnecessary bulk and setup a showcase demo site. > > >
