Hi Howard, Are there any posibility that there will be a separate mailing list or forum maybe explicitly for Tapestry-IOC? I can explain my interest in it. In the past I have quite serious experience with Tapestry 4 (and not the bad one). So, Hivemind was a required knowledge to be effective with T4. Since that time I was looking (for self improvement) on Spring and later to Guice, and I should say that ideas behind the Hivemind are still unique. No one is there and no one even tried to go there. Tapestry 5 bring us a Tapestry-IOC as part of it, but because it is an independent Maven project it can be used without Tapestry easily. Actually, in Tapestry-IOC documentation you mentioned that it was a problem to keep two independent project (Tapestry 4 and Hivemind) in synch, but thanks to Maven they are still there - fully independant from technical point of view. I also remember previews of Hivemind 2 and I should say that perhaps Tapestry-IOC is just a rework of it. There were no new concepts introduced in Tapestry-IOC since Hivemind, only approach for description of them changed drastically. Old XML based syntax is missed, but today is probably not so important. I hardly believe that Hivemind is still used anywhere except where Tapestry 4 is. I am not agitating for releasing Tapestry-IOC as a separate product, it is good for me having is as a part of whatever, until it will be easily accesible with maven (as it is possible now). But I am not using Tapestry 5 and it seems that there are no changes form me to do it in the nearest future. But I like Tapestry-IOC and want to go deep into it, maybe exchange my knowledge and code with other interested people. Because many thinks can be done in this direction - common services, interceptors, etc. For this reason, having a separate mailing list just for it would be very nice.
P.S. Anyway, thanks for yours wanderful project, which makes my brain to boil up a little :) Appliyng Tapestry-IOC is a big pleasure for me! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org