I don't think that this model will work for tapestry. Clojure is kind
of a "deal breaker". It's unique in what it does. Tapestry is "just"
one of many web frameworks and I guess you wont reach the critical
mass of contributors to make a living out of it.

Regards,
 Markus


On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:56 AM, ARD Marx Tobias
<tobias.marx...@daserste.de> wrote:
> You need the marketing of RubyOnRails for Tapestry - combined with a good IDE
> and "plugins" for common use-cases (e.g. authentication)...then more people 
> might
> use Tapestry and the number of user-contribution rises.
>
> The best webframework is not very useful without a big community behind it.
> Or: Even bad frameworks become useful if there is a big community behind it
> as most frameworks and software live of user-contributed code.
>
> http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cakephp.org
> http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/rubyonrails.org
>
> http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/joomla.org
> http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/drupal.org
>
> Also, from a business point of view, the bigger the market, the more 
> attractive
> as specific framework...so there is many factors why "marketing" a framework
> should not be underestimated.
>
> Just my 2 cents...
>
> Tobias
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Howard [mailto:hls...@gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Monday, February 22, 2010 7:15 PM
> An: users@tapestry.apache.org
> Betreff: [Tapestry Central] March of Progress
>
> Or should that be "Late February of Progress". I have to say I'm a bit
> envious right now of Rich Hickey ... I can see that he's continuing on
> like a steam roller, extending and improving Clojure. I guess he's
> having some success in generating Research and Design budget from
> funding companies. I can see, following his threads, that he's working
> on yet more concurrency metaphors for Clojure, which is a good thing
> (though eventually there'll need to be a big book just to describe them
> all).
> I'm on a different track, in that I fund Tapestry out of pocket while
> doing training and project work. In some cases, those merge, such as
> when I add specific features to Tapestry for a specific client.
> I'm of two minds here: doing project work keeps me grounded in real
> requirements for Tapestry. I see what works really well, and what needs
> some polishing. On the other hand, I come up with ideas for new
> components, improvements, and integrations all the time and barely have
> enough free time (between clients, ordinary Tapestry maintenance, and
> this special project) to even document my ideas, never mind implement,
> test and distribute them.
> So, should I set up a funding option like Rich's? Well, that wouldn't
> help my current clients (I'm committed to getting their apps into
> production), but it may change how I would look for future work.
>
> --
> Posted By Howard to Tapestry Central at 2/22/2010 10:15:00 AM
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