Thanks, so much, Steve.
I'm off and running.
Maybe I'll drop you a note some time to let you know how I'm getting along.
More likely, you will see me show up on here with another "issue". LOL.
Thanks again -
Best.
Phil
Steve Eynon wrote:
>
> There's no initial /org/apache/tapestry5/pages resources directory
> because the (old fashioned) alternative was to place the .tml files in
> the webapp (aka context) directory. That's where they appear in the
> tutorial.
>
> However that technique is no longer recommended and the .tml files
> should be placed along side your java files. As to why they don't work
> in the context dir ('cos they should still work there really)... I
> don't know - I've never tried it! :)
>
> The maven archetype (along with the tutorial) was written a wee while
> ago now and needs updating - which is why the .tml files are in the
> wrong place.
>
> If you put your .tml files in src/main/java/... (as I saw in your
> screenshot) then you're reliant on eclipse copying them over to
> target/classes/... but if you put them in src/main/resources/... then
> it's maven wot copies them over. And as you're using maven to launch
> jetty, you're better off relying on maven to do the leg work.
>
> But cool, I'm pleased you're now in a position to start playing around
> with components and T5 in general.
>
> T5 is an excellent piece of engineering but it is mentioned frequently
> on this list that the documentation is a bit light. That maybe, but
> what I find really goes in T5's favour is the quality of the code and
> the way it's completely modular. Unlike other arbitrary frameworks
> (e.g. in my opinion, Spring) T5 is really well written, avoids
> inheritance where it can, and most answers can be found by a quick
> peek in the code.
>
> Anyhow, have fun,
>
> Steve.
>
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>
> On 12 May 2010 14:16, aibkwik <phil.mcqui...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Steve,
>>
>> Very interesting.
>>
>> I started over from scratch.
>>
>> Still did not work, however,
>>
>> when I copy (manually) my .tml files down into
>> ../target/classes/org/apache/tapestry5/tutorial/pages along with my
>> .class
>> files, the damn thing worked right away.
>>
>> I don't even have a /src/main/resources/org/apache/tapestry5/pages
>> directory.
>>
>> See my working file setup below...
>>
>> http://old.nabble.com/file/p28539377/Java%2B-%2Btutorial1_src_main_webapp_WEB-INF_Index.java%2B-%2BEclipse%2B-%2B_Users_phil.mcquitty_Documents_personal_javacode-1.jpg
>>
>> So I guess the question is, "why do I not get the resources directory?"
>> and
>> why don't my initial .tml files from the mvn:generate command get placed
>> there?
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Eynon-2 wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Phil,
>>>
>>> Now you've made me do the tutorial... (D'Oh) and yeah, it's not quite
>>> as accurate as I expect it once was. But fundamentally, the principles
>>> are sound.
>>>
>>> So again, starting from scratch, I generate the archetype.
>>>
>>> For the record, I'm using Maven 2.2.1 (as given by mvn -version) and
>>> by default (i.e. pressing [enter]) it creates the tutorial in the
>>> package : org.apache.tapestry : so we'll go with this.
>>>
>>> Now "org.apache.tapestry" is important, it means all your page code
>>> and your page templates go in to "org.apache.tapestry.pages"
>>>
>>> So your Index.java and Guess.java go in to:
>>>
>>> /src/main/java/org/apache/tapestry/pages
>>>
>>> and Index.tml and Guess.tml go in:
>>>
>>> /src/main/resources/org/apache/tapestry/pages
>>>
>>> The important thing is, that once compiled, all your .class files and
>>> your .tml files end up in the same place. Following our example this
>>> would be:
>>>
>>> /target/classes/org/apache/tapestry/pages
>>>
>>> Note how "org.apache.tapestry.pages" is used throughout.
>>>
>>> I cut'n'paste'ed the java files from the tutorial and they give the
>>> wrong java package of "org.apache.tapestry5.tutorial.pages" but follow
>>> the eclipse hint to change it to "org.apache.tapestry.pages"
>>>
>>> The tutorial .tml files are fine.
>>>
>>> The generated web.xml is fine also, so no need to touch that.
>>>
>>> Despite the tutorial saying otherwise I would stick to using "mvn
>>> jetty:run" for now to prevent further complicating your set up. (In
>>> fact I use nothing else and still get live class re-loading but my
>>> setup is probably a little more advanced.)
>>>
>>> In fact, start using "mvn clean jetty:run" just to make sure no stray
>>> class files are hanging around.
>>>
>>> And that's it - it works on my machine!
>>>
>>> From there it's all about cut'n'pasting bits of code and not whole
>>> pages. And once everything is in the correct directory it should
>>> largely, just work.
>>>
>>> By the way, "org.apache.tapestry" is not a special package, you can
>>> use what ever you want - just make sure everything is the same. i.e.
>>> if use the package "foo.bar.t5" then
>>>
>>> .java files go in:
>>> /src/main/java/foo/bar/t5/pages
>>>
>>> .tml files go in:
>>> /src/main/resources/foo/bar/t5/pages
>>>
>>> so your .class and .tml files end up in:
>>> /target/classes/foo/bar/t5/pages
>>>
>>> and make sure the "tapestry.app-package" param-value in your web.xml is
>>> set to
>>> foo.bar.t5
>>>
>>> I don't think I can say much more than that. But to be honest, if
>>> Java, Eclipse, Maven and Web Apps are all new to you, then I suspect
>>> you're in for rough ride and a steep learning curve whatever platform
>>> you try out.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> Steve.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 May 2010 21:14:05 UTC-4, aibkwik <phil.mcqui...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Steve. thanks, for hangin in there, man.
>>>>
>>>> I have had that "ta da" moment each time I have started over from
>>>> scratch.
>>>>
>>>> Each time I re-create my project, I follow the tutorial and actually
>>>> use
>>>> the
>>>> exact command you specified. (Discovered the "create" error in the
>>>> tutorial
>>>> (deprecated function) after a couple of hours....).
>>>>
>>>> It creates a project for me and going to the URL works great. I see
>>>> the
>>>> time-of-day function and clicking on refresh works great. I continue
>>>> to
>>>> follow the tutorial example and import the new, working project into my
>>>> Eclipse. (that's when the .tml files get separated from the .java
>>>> files).
>>>>
>>>> Going to the URL at that point reveals the index.tml page and all looks
>>>> good
>>>> until you click the link.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing works beyond that.
>>>>
>>>> I checked my web.xml and did have "tutorial" instead of "tutorial5",
>>>> however, making the change ended up with the same error, but gave me a
>>>> new
>>>> branch in my directory along with two new .class files.
>>>>
>>>> I'm losing steam...
>>>>
>>>> I feel like I should not proceed to other samples, examples, if I can
>>>> not
>>>> get this very simple one working. I'm considering dropping this
>>>> altogether
>>>> and giving other paradigms a try. I've seen appFuse and echo Web but
>>>> was
>>>> under the impression that tapestry was more settled and would be easier
>>>> to
>>>> learn. I've been on this one tutorial for 3 days.... LoL... I'm a C++
>>>> programmer trying to make the switch over to Java/web and am looking
>>>> for
>>>> a
>>>> way to avoid having to learn all the 'plumbing' required in servlet/JSP
>>>> baseline programing.
>>>>
>>>> If you have something else you'd like me to try, I'm still game on
>>>> giving
>>>> it
>>>> a go.
>>>>
>>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve Eynon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Scary that the exception talks about components when it should be
>>>>> looking for a page.
>>>>>
>>>>> What does your web.xml look like? What is your app package set to? It
>>>>> should be:
>>>>>
>>>>> <context-param>
>>>>> <!-- The only significant configuration for Tapestry 5, this
>>>>> informs Tapestry
>>>>> of where to look for pages, components and mixins. -->
>>>>> <param-name>tapestry.app-package</param-name>
>>>>> <param-value>org.apache.tapestry5.tutorial</param-value>
>>>>> </context-param>
>>>>>
>>>>> See http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5.1/guide/conf.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually - if you're using maven, have you tried creating a project
>>>>> from the maven archetype as mentioned on page one :
>>>>> http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5.1/tutorial1/first.html
>>>>>
>>>>> To get a working app I did as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>>> mvn archetype:generate -DarchetypeGroupId=org.apache.tapestry
>>>>>> -DarchetypeArtifactId=quickstart -DgroupId=org.apache.tapestry
>>>>>> -DartifactId=tutorial1 -DpackageName=org.apache.tapestry5.tutorial
>>>>>
>>>>> And accepted the default settings. (Note I changed archetype:create to
>>>>> archetype:generate)
>>>>>
>>>>>> cd tutorial1
>>>>>
>>>>> Edited the pom.xml at the bottom to update the Tapestry version
>>>>> 5.1.0.5
>>>>>
>>>>>> mvn jetty:run
>>>>>
>>>>> Open browser to: http://localhost:8080/tutorial1/
>>>>>
>>>>> Ta daa! That should give you a working base to start from.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11 May 2010 16:11, aibkwik <phil.mcqui...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure what the current T5 deal is with putting .tml files in the
>>>>>> WEB-INF, but I'm certain it's not recommended.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, as Sergey and I have suggested, place your .tml files in the
>>>>>> same package as your java / class files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With your current maven setup, that would be:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> src/main/resources/org/apache/tapestry5/tutorial/pages
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really embarrassing now...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Forgot to mention earlier that I'd tried that already, to no avail.
>>>>>> I do, however, get a different error.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is the new file locations you suggested -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://old.nabble.com/file/p28528821/Java%2B-%2Btutorial1_src_main_java_org_apache_tapestry5_tutorial_pages_Index.java%2B-%2BEclipse%2B-%2B_Users_phil.mcquitty_Documents_personal_javacode-1.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and here is the new error -
>>>>>> http://old.nabble.com/file/p28528821/Application%2BException-1.jpeg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really want to make this crazy thing work and get to a point where
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> move forward. I will understand if you guys 'cry uncle'. I
>>>>>> appreciate
>>>>>> your help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil
>>>>>>
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