Jetty and Resin both are/have java servlet containers.  They are free.  Also, 
Tomcat ( at least 5.5.9 ) comes with a commons-el.jar .  Make sure the same 
version is in both environments.

Dennis Byrne

>-----Original Message-----
>From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, February 3, 2006 04:17 PM
>To: 'Tomcat Users List'
>Subject: RE: Managed beans not instantiated with embedded Tomcat 5.5.15
>
>Dennis,
>
>Unfortunately, I don't have Jetty or Resin (not sure what they are even
>exactly).
>I thought I'd post the question here as the problem seems to be pointing
>to an embedded Tomcat idiosyncroncy, rather than a myFaces issue. I
>posted the result of the most recent test on the myFaces list yesterday
>and will certainly post the final resolution when it happens (fingers
>crossed).
>
>John 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dennis Byrne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 1:08 PM
>To: Tomcat Users List
>Subject: Re: Managed beans not instantiated with embedded Tomcat 5.5.15
>
>Please try this in Jetty or Resin as well John.  The root cause of some
>bugs has blown me away, but I just have a hard time thinking the servlet
>container is reponsible for this.  Oh, and please make sure you let
>folks back in myfaces land know what the cause was.  TIA.
>
>Dennis Byrne
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Friday, February 3, 2006 04:00 PM
>>To: 'Tomcat Users List'
>>Subject: RE: Managed beans not instantiated with embedded Tomcat 5.5.15
>>
>> 
>>Dennis,
>>
>>Yes, exactly the same issue.
>>
>>A myFaces list subscriber tried my war within his Standalone Tomcat and
>
>>it worked as expected (the managed beans functioned correctly). And I 
>>verified that this was true by connecting to his server and running my 
>>war.
>>
>>So I'm figuring that the only difference between the two environments 
>>is that my Tomcat is actually embedded within our Java server
>application.
>>There must be something about managed beans when running Tomcat 
>>embedded... Maybe I have to kick off a managed beans object in a thread
>
>>or something.......
>>
>>John
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Dennis Byrne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:57 PM
>>To: Tomcat Users List
>>Subject: Re: Managed beans not instantiated with embedded Tomcat 5.5.15
>>
>>Is this the same deal you posted on the MyFaces mailing list?
>>
>>http://www.mail-archive.com/users%40myfaces.apache.org/msg16075.html
>>
>>Where did this end up going?
>>
>>Dennis Byrne
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: Friday, February 3, 2006 03:50 PM
>>>To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>>>Subject: Managed beans not instantiated with embedded Tomcat 5.5.15
>>>
>>>I have Tomcat 5.5.15 embedded within our Java server application.
>>> 
>>>Tomcat is serving a JSF web application bundled as a war file.
>>> 
>>>The web application makes use of managed beans
>>> 
>>>This web application works fine when run in a Stand Alone Tomcat that 
>>>is not embedded.
>>> 
>>>When the web application is run within our embedded Tomcat, the 
>>>managed
>>
>>>beans are not instantiated although no errors are produced.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>Thanks,
>>>John
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>
>>
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