On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 06:53 -0800, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> >>>When an Apache project founder[1] starts spamming the Apache community,
> Sorry but how could you say "spamming the Apache Community"? without
> knowing me and how I have been contributing to the Apache community
> and projects? 
> 
spam: n. Unsolicited email sent in bulk for commercial purposes.

That I don't know you only makes it more spammy.

> 
> >>>>there can and ought to be consequences.
> What do you mean?
> 
> >>>>Doesn't Apache have some minimu standards for this?  He seems to
> be a project committer, but hasn't contributed any code in about a
> year.
> I am PMC Chair of OpenWebBeans project. I think you don't know the
> roles of PMC Chair, please learn from here before talking. 

You mean that role comes with spamming privileges?  News to me.

> Lastly, 
> 
> 
> I get everyday huge amount of such marketing emails from all big known
> software vendors. I am sure you also receive such emails. If I am not
> interested, I simply unsubscribe from the list, this is not a really
> big problem to discuss! 
> 
> If you received such email from my email address, and not interested
> please unsubscribe from the list and you will never get a such email
> again.
> 
'Everyone else does it' is a pretty shaky ethical foundation.  Yes, it's
easy enough to unsubscribe.  But before I do that I need to check around
and make sure I can trust the link so I'm not just feeding a spammer.  I
get enough 'opt-out' crap already without having trusted sources like
ASF hopping on the bandwagon.  If this is going to be the new norm for
ASF I may have to rethink my list subscriptions.

Dude, you're not helping your mission here.  Take your wrist slap and
find a better channel to drum up business.

> Best 
> 
> Gurkan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:24 PM, Tim Watts <t...@cliftonfarm.org> 
> wrote:
>  
> On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 14:56 +0100, Leon Rosenberg wrote:
> > I got it too. I think its easier to delete and forget it, as to debate
> > about it. ;-)
> 
> When an Apache project founder[1] starts spamming the Apache community,
> there can and ought to be consequences.
> 
> ___
> [1] At least that's his claim in the email. Their website doesn't post
> any PMC member list that I could find.  Doesn't Apache have some minimum
> standards for this?  He seems to be a project committer, but hasn't
> contributed any code in about a year.
> 
> 
> 
> > regards
> > Leon
> > 
> > 
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