> -----Original Message-----
> From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 3:08 PM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: Cannot connect from outside using Tomcat 7/APR/SSL on AWS
> Windows system
> 
> Jeffrey Janner wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 2:41 PM
> >> To: Tomcat Users List
> >> Subject: Re: Cannot connect from outside using Tomcat 7/APR/SSL on
> >> AWS Windows system
> >>
> >> Jeffrey Janner wrote:
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com]
> >>>> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 1:47 PM
> >>>> To: Tomcat Users List
> >>>> Subject: Re: Cannot connect from outside using Tomcat 7/APR/SSL on
> >>>> AWS Windows system
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeffrey Janner wrote:
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com]
> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 11:01 AM
> >>>>>> To: Tomcat Users List
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Cannot connect from outside using Tomcat 7/APR/SSL
> >>>>>> on AWS Windows system
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jeffrey Janner wrote:
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com]
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 10:09 AM
> >>>>>>>> To: Tomcat Users List
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Cannot connect from outside using Tomcat
> 7/APR/SSL
> >>>>>>>> on AWS Windows system
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jeffrey Janner wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>> From: Ognjen Blagojevic
> >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:ognjen.d.blagoje...@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:19 AM
> >>>>>>>>>> To: Tomcat Users List
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Cannot connect from outside using Tomcat
> >> 7/APR/SSL
> >>>>>>>>>> on AWS Windows system
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Jeffrey,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 19.1.2014 6:03, Christopher Schultz wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <Connector address="10.4.1.20" port="443"
> >>>>>> maxHttpHeaderSize="8192"
> >>>>>>>>>>> Could it be as simple as having set the "address"
> attribute?
> >>>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> BTW, setting attribute preverIPv4Stack=true on server side
> >>>>>>>>>> doesn't mean anything for the client. The client will try to
> >>>>>>>>>> connect with
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> protocol he prefers. The client may also fall back to other
> >>>>>>>>>> protocol (e.g. if IPv6 connection fails several times, try
> >> with
> >>>>>> IPv4).
> >>>>>>>>>> I see that access log is not configured. Is there a reason
> >>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>> that?
> >>>>>>>>>> Without access log you can't tell if the remote request
> >> reaches
> >>>>>>>>>> Tomcat or not. So, for start, I suggest you configure access
> >>>>>>>>>> log for Tomcat 7 and report back if something is logged
> after
> >>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>> try
> >>>>>>>>>> to connect from the remote host. Note that Tomcat may
> >>>>>>>>>> postpone writes
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> the log files, so make sure you stop Tomcat before you check
> >>>> your
> >>>>>>>> logs.
> >>>>>>>>>> If there is no record of remote requests in Tomcat 7 access
> >>>> logs,
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>> suggest you analyze what is going on with Wireshark or some
> >>>> other
> >>>>>>>>>> packet analyzer. You can that see if the client:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 1. tries to connect using IPv6 or IPv4, 2. is falling back,
> 3.
> >>>>>>>>>> which exactly IPv4/v6 adress does it use, 4. is TCP three-
> way
> >>>>>>>>>> handshake successfull.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Only when you confirm that three-way handshake is
> succsessful
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> that the destionation IP adress is IPv4 "10.4.1.20", you may
> >>>>>>>>>> say
> >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>> the request should have reached Tomcat.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> -Ognjen
> >>>>>>>>> Added the access log.  Absolutely 0 entries from any address
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>> not the local system.
> >>>>>>>> Can you configure your Tomcat-6 to run under your Java-7 ?
> >>>>>>>> (in the principle, I think that this should work; I don't know
> >>>>>>>> about the practice) This would help determine if the
> difference
> >>>>>>>> resides in the Java or the Tomcat.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Tried it a different way.  Since TC7 is supposed to support
> Java
> >>>>>>> 1.6,
> >>>>>> switched my TC7 to use the existing Java6.
> >>>>>>> No luck.
> >>>>>>> Noticed that 7.0.47 is old now.  Going to try 7.0.50.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Did you try a simple :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> telnet 10.4.1.20 <Tomcat listen port>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (just to see if 'anything' from outside can connect to your
> >>>>>> AWS/Tomcat
> >>>>>> port)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Nope, just timeouts.
> >>>> If the connection is not rejected right away with a "connection
> >>>> refused by host", it normally means that a LISTEN port is opened
> on
> >> that port.
> >>>> Taken "strictly by the book" and according to your presumed
> >>>> accurate description of the symptoms above,
> >>>>
> >>>> A timeout suggests to me that the connection request packet (SYN
> ?)
> >>>> is received and accepted by the server, but that the return packet
> >>>> which should tell the client so (ACK ?), never makes it back to
> the
> >> client.
> >>>> Hence the client waits, until the timeout kicks in.
> >>>>
> >>>> Are you sure that this server has a route back to the client ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Or, are you sure that your descriptions so far are really accurate
> ?
> >>>> For example, is it really the same server on which you can make
> >>>> this succeed/fail just by switching the Java and/or Tomcat
> version,
> >>>> no other changes involved ?
> >>>> (Also see Konstantin's question about the apparent discrepancy
> >>>> between the netstat output and your server.xml).
> >>>>
> >>> Yep, just stopping one service and starting the other.  It's
> >> something weird with the server, since an identical Tomcat 6 install
> >> wouldn't work with a copied and stripped configuration.  I'm double-
> >> checking everything, but I think the server's tied the outside IP to
> >> the wrong internal IP.  Trying to come up with a way to check that.
> >>> Note, the connectors and hosts my original posted server.xml are
> >> taken from my original install, but that also has another pair of
> >> connectors (different IPv4 address) and some hosts that should only
> >> respond on that address, though they are all under one
> service/engine
> >> combo.  The troublesome address connectors and hosts are commented
> >> out in the original and the original restarted before I try to start
> >> the newer setups.
> >> Suggestion: read Part III of the article which I mentioned earlier
> >> (http://www.excelsior-usa.com/articles/tomcat-amazon-ec2-
> basic.html),
> >> particularly the section "Assigning an Elastic IP Address".
> >>
> >> It suggests that there is a lot more going on with AWS instances
> than
> >> merely tying up a socket to an IP address.  I don't know really, but
> >> maybe it is something in that area which stymies your attempts..
> >>
> >> In the meantime, I'll go back to your quoted server.xml (the
> >> <Connector> entries), and see if yomething there catches my
> >> imagination.
> >> What I am thinking of, is some edge case between the AWS IP-binding
> >> logic, and APR socket configuration.  After all, it is quite
> possible
> >> that not all such cases would have been thoroughly tested, and you
> >> may have stumbled inadvertently on one such.
> >>
> > Forgot to mention that I am using EIP for all mappings.  I'm not
> depending on "magic" from AWS.
> > Also, I'm working under Windows, but the basics are the same.
> >
> 
> Unfortunately, it looks like I am a bit (much) out of my depth there.
> I don't know AWS at all, and the results of the DNS lookups that I'm
> doing on the IP and hostnames you quoted are increasing my confusion..
> Looks like something you'll have to work out by yourself.
> My last suggestion would be to minimise your configuration (single IP,
> single HTTP port, single Host, default page) and start from there.
> 

Actually, that is what I was trying to do, minimize the configuration.
Let's see if I can do a line drawing:
qwdemo.polydyne.com (DNS 96.127.35.106) --> AWS firewall (allow 80/443 from 
anywhere) --> EIP mapping (aka NAT) --> server (10.4.1.20)
It really should be that simple of a setup.
Is there any way to log the internal IP a request comes in on?  I wonder if the 
mapping is correct?

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