Thank Chris, Totally I agree with you

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 6:03 PM Will Nordmeyer <quark...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Chris,
>
> I understand all of that and am working all those concerns to the
> PTB... but as with many management situations reality doesn't fit with
> the "security" mindset.
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 10:59 AM Christopher Schultz
> <ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
> >
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> > Will,
> >
> > On 10/23/18 10:44, Will Nordmeyer wrote:
> > > I'm currently running Tomcat 7 (will likely migrate to 8 or 9 in
> > > the next year).  I tried working with Oracle on this with no
> > > success.
> > >
> > > We have an Oracle Database connection defined within our web.xml
> > > (see below).  We need to convert to using 2 Factor (certificate?)
> > > based Authentication.
> > >
> > > How do we convert from our embedded username password to 2FA
> >
> > Uhh...
> >
> > How would you enter your second-factor into the server? During service
> > startup? What happens if the connection times-out and you have to
> > re-authenticate? Do you want to be paged in the middle of the night to
> > re-enter your 2FA code? How about 10 times per hour on 100 different
> > servers?
> >
> > 2FA doesn't make any sense at all for services contacting other
> > services. 2FA makes sense for humans contacting services because
> > humans are so much worse at password management, social engineering
> > resistance, etc.
> >
> > If you have a segment of your IT team mandating 2FA for database
> > connections (even for services), tell them that THEY have to use THEIR
> > 2FA credentials to unlock the database for YOUR services. See how long
> > that policy survives.
> >
> > - -chris
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