Boris,

Thank you, I should get to trying it this evening EDT.

One other thing I will try it enabling logging in core Tomcat from JDK
logging as opposed to log4j, to see if I can get Tomcat to tell me where
it is hanging.  In the same vein, do you know if there is a truss-like
equivalent for WinXP?

As for netbeans, I will try it standalone, but to be honest, it is
unlikely, since Netbeans starts a separate OS process, and I can
actually control the command-line options separately. I believe it is
just a convenience method. But I will try it to be sure.

I will try all of the above and let you know what I find.
Avi

Boris Unckel wrote:

> Hello Avi,
>
> Avi Deitcher wrote:
>
>> Boris,
>>
>> Thank you, too. The main issue here is that I *do* want to separate my
>> webapp's logging from Tomcat's, so it can be fully self-contained.
>> Hence, I included log4j.jar and log4j.properties within my own webapp,
>> which should make a lot of sense. In the development case, I am pushing
>> the logs to the console, which end up intermixes with Tomcat's logs, but
>> that is an easy switch in log4j.properties. Also, it appears that
>> x4juli, according to the Website, is not quite ready for production.
>>
>> Any idea why this would cause hanging?
>> Avi
>
> If there is really a conflict between el and logj4j, try out the
> following to be sure:
> Please use the highest available version of log4j and commons-logging:
> http://logging.apache.org/log4j/docs/download.html
> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/downloads_commons-logging.cgi
>
> Follow the instructions in
> http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/Commons_Logging_FUD
> to separate container commons-logging and webapps commons-logging.
>
> Put log4j.jar in $CATALINA_HOME/server/lib and a log4j.properties in
> $CATALINA_HOME/server/classes
>
> Take care to remove any log4j.jar and commons-logging-xx.jar from
> $CATALINA_HOME/common/lib
> or $CATALINA_HOME/shared/lib
>
> Take care that commons-logging or log4j is not present at
> system-classpath due to your startup with Netbeans,
> this may cause the problem. (Does the problem only occur with startup
> in Netbeans? Does it occur standalone, too?)
>
> Put in logj4.jar in WEB-INF/lib and log4j.properties in
> WEB-INF/classes as you desired with a webapp specific
> configuration.
>
> Regards
> Boris
>
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