On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 3:46 PM calder <calder....@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 3:05 PM Sean Neeley <sean.nee...@producepro.com>
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 2:57 PM calder <calder....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, 14:43 Sean Neeley <sean.nee...@producepro.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I heard that tomcat is no longer available for RHEL 8.  Does anyone
> know
> > > > why this is?  What free alternatives are there for java servlets,
> which
> > > > have rpm packages managed by Red Hat?
> > >
> > > I would fathom a guess that'd be a question for Red Hat?  (as they
> decide
> > > what's available for their distro).
> > > .
> > > In a pinch, one could download plain vanilla Tomcat and install to
> "/opt/"
> > > [1] ... or you could go through the manual pain to install as it would
> be
> > > deployed on RHEL 7.x
> > > .
> > > [1] We do this
> >
> > Thanks.  I know the decision was Red Hat's, but I thought someone here
> > might know the reason.
>
> It's quite possible - I am not a member of the official Tomcat team,
> so they may chime in if they are privy to that info.
>
> > I may do what you did and install as it was on RHEL 7.x.
>
> To be clear, we do not mimic the install layout as is done in RHEL 7.x
> (a splintered install, where various sub-dirs located in different
> sub-dir trees)
>
> We install (most all 3rd party software) to the "/opt/" tree, so we
> have Tomcat based in:
> /opt/tomcat/ ... and TC's native sub-dirs are all encased in that tree, as
> in:
>
> calder@ren:/opt/tomcat > ls -A1
> bin
> conf
> lib
> logs
> temp
> webapps
> work
> calder@ren:/opt/tomcat >
>
> The simplest explanation is
> (1) create the "/opt/tomcat" sub-dir
> (2) unzip the plain-vanilla ZIP there.
> There's much more to it for us[1], but that's it in a nutshell.
>
> > The drawback is no automatic updates.
> Understood [1]  (we do not allow distro vendor updates).
>
> > Did you package your installation into an rpm that could be shared?
> Shared, as in, "with the general public" ? [1]
>
> [1] Because we are a banking institution, we do not allow 3rd party
> software to be "maintained by the distro vendor" (for updates, etc).
> We are responsible to determine how and "where" the 3rd party
> software will be packaged, installed, and updated.
> Any software packages or documents (etc) created internally can *not*
> leave any machine or our network.
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Thanks for the tips.  I will give this a try.  I was asking if you created
a package that you can share with me, for my server.  But if you are not
allowed to do so, or your package has proprietary things in it, I
understand.  I was just trying to save myself some time.

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