Brian,

On 5/19/22 10:29, Brian Eller wrote:
My vendor supports AJP but, I don't know if they support
mod_http_proxy.  This is a embedded version of Tomcat 8.5 that is
tightly coupled with the vendor's software and is an installed
subcomponent from the vendor.

Well, have a look a tthe facts:

1. Your vendor definitely supports AJP
2. Your cybersecurity group says you definitely need to encrypt that connection
3. AJP doesn't support encryption

So you have a couple of options:

1. Encrypt AJP yourself. Your options are:
  a. IPsec or similar/VPN
  b. stunnel / ssh tunnel
2. Switch to another protocol (i.e. HTTPS)
3. Switch to a different vendor

Which of those would work out best for you?

Another option on the list is:

4. Make this your vendor's problem, since they are the one wanting to use AJP

This may be helpful to provide to your vendor:
https://tomcat.apache.org/presentations.html#latest-migrate-ajp-http

Hope that helps,
-chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 6:12 AM
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: Encryption of Tomcat AJP

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 07:09:59AM +0000, Hiran CHAUDHURI wrote:
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From: Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
Subject: Re: Encryption of Tomcat AJP

On 19/05/2022 01:32, Brian Eller wrote:
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Hello,

                  I am working on a Tomcat install embedded inside a vendor 
product that uses Apache to pass traffic to Tomcat.  My cyber security group is 
asking if we can encrypt all connections.  Does the mod_jk protocol, AJP can be 
encrypted?

No, AJP does not support encryption.

If you want to encrypt traffic between the reverse proxy and the embedded 
Tomcat instance I'd recommend using mod_proxy_http and proxy everything over 
HTTPS. This requires a little more configuration to get things working.

The main thing to keep in mind is to make sure that the Tomcat instance 
correctly identifies whether the client connection to the reverse proxy was 
over HTTP or HTTPS.

Mark

I totally agree this is an existing and sufficient mechanism already available. 
And I see it popping up in more and more locations.
But as you point out there are some caveats that potentially open security 
risks. On the contrary AJP - maybe because it cannot be configured with 
encryption - looks simple and straightforward.

Would it make sense to create a solution with less caveats and up to date 
security requirements?

If the OP's cyber security group insists, then maybe they would care to give 
him their requirements and suggestions for setting up IPSEC.

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