:-) Christopher,

This is where my not being a developer really shines out. :-)

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 4:27 PM
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Basic SSL Certificate Usage logging
> 
> Jon,
> 
> On 1/10/23 13:37, jonmcalexan...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID wrote:
> > Ultimately it would be nice to be able to log it in Jason format for
> > ingestion by Elastic or something similar.
> If you want JSON-formatted logs, then configure JSON-formatted logs.
> JSON embedded in JSON is a little silly:
> 
> {
>    "timestamp":"2023-01-10T22:24:00Z",
>    "level":"INFO",
>    "logger":"org.apache.tomcat.util.net.AbstractEndpoint.logCertificate"
> 
> "message":"{\"tlsVirtualHost\":\"_default_\",\"tlsCertificateType\":\"RSA\",
> ... }"
> }
> 
> Isn't this what logstash is for?
> 
> -chris
> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 7:52 AM
> >> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: Basic SSL Certificate Usage logging
> >>
> >> Jon,
> >>
> >> On 1/9/23 18:17, jonmcalexan...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID wrote:
> >>> Yes Chris, It's just for during startup. For a particular instance I
> >>> would like to capture the Certificate Info and Truststore being used
> >>> and pipe that into a separate log/txt file.
> >> So it sounds like just dumping-out the configured certificates, etc.
> >> to something like the debug log from Connector or SSLHostConfig or
> >> similar would work?
> >>
> >> Or would you want that information available to the application so
> >> you can log it in some very specific way? Note that you can already
> >> get the SSLHostConfig info via JMX if you are willing to do that.
> >>
> >> -chris
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Dream * Excel * Explore * Inspire
> >>> Jon McAlexander
> >>> Senior Infrastructure Engineer
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> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>
> >>>> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 8:10 AM
> >>>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: Basic SSL Certificate Usage logging
> >>>>
> >>>> Jon,
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1/6/23 15:53, jonmcalexan...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID wrote:
> >>>>> Thanks for the info.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In a nutshell I think the certpath,provider would be sufficient.
> >>>>> I'm thinking that I can add this to the java options as
> >>>>> -Djava.security.debug=ssl:certpath,provider however I don't know
> >>>>> how to specify where to log the information.
> >>>> java.security.debug is really a blunt instrument. It's unfortunate
> >>>> that it's one of the only ways to get information out of the TLS
> >>>> stack. It would have been great if Java had started using its own
> >>>> logging system once it was introduced, but no.
> >>>>
> >>>> That debugging tool always dumps to stdout (or stderr?) and you
> >>>> have very little control over where it goes.
> >>>>
> >>>> You would never want to use it for ongoing logging. It truly is for
> >>>> debugging- only.
> >>>>
> >>>> The good news is that application code should be able to get the
> >>>> information you are looking for.
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh, wait...
> >>>>
> >>>>> [...] I'm checking to see if there is any out-of-the-box option to
> >>>>> capture in a log which SSL certificate and trust keystore is being
> >>>>> used during startup?
> >>>> What do you mean "during startup"? I originally read that as "for
> >>>> incoming connections" thinking that you wanted to log which cert
> >>>> was used for a particular request. But it sounds like maybe you are
> >>>> asking for something to just be logged one-time during startup?
> >>>>
> >>>> -chris
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dream * Excel * Explore * Inspire
> >>>>> Jon McAlexander
> >>>>> Senior Infrastructure Engineer
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> >>>>>
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> >>>>> 8080 Cobblestone Rd | Urbandale, IA 50322
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>
> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 6, 2023 2:41 PM
> >>>>>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Basic SSL Certificate Usage logging
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mark,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 1/6/23 15:00, Mark Thomas wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi Jon,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In a word, no. Sorry.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Some sort of info log message probably makes sense for this. SNI
> >>>>>>> makes things a little more complicated but we should be able to
> >>>>>>> do
> >>>> something.
> >>>>>>> What is the minimum info you'd like to see?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How about adding a request attribute with some kind of identifier
> (fpr?
> >>>>>> serial-number?) in it and indicates at least which server-cert
> >>>>>> was
> >> chosen.
> >>>>>> Then it can trivially be added to e.g. access_log or even to
> >>>>>> application code which wants to do custom logging.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -chris
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 06/01/2023 18:52, jonmcalexan...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Good afternoon and Happy New Year,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I know about the SSL debug logging, however, I'm checking to
> >>>>>>>> see if there is any out-of-the-box option to capture in a log
> >>>>>>>> which SSL certificate and trust keystore is being used during
> startup?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Dream * Excel * Explore * Inspire Jon McAlexander Senior
> >>>>>>>> Infrastructure Engineer Asst. Vice President He/His
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Middleware Product Engineering
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
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