But I'm not sure it would show as a disk bottleneck. If you have frequent small writes to a disk and each write is delayed while antivirus checks the datastream for virus signatures, the many tiny delays could aggegate in to a much bigger file i/o slow down. The system may experience a higher CPU load rather than a disk bottleneck.

--David

Frank Niedermann wrote:

David,

that is a good idea from far, far away :-)

Antivirus is enabled (I'm not suicidal, this is a Windows box ;) but
according to the Windows performance viewer there is no bottleneck on the
harddisk, it's always way under 10% load.

Frank


David Smith-2 wrote:
I think a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away I remember something about antivirus impacting file I/O performance. Would your box happen to have antivirus enabled? If so, any chance you could exclude your logs from it and/or disable it for the purpose of a test?

--David

Frank Niedermann wrote:

Unfortunately I have to use Windows Server 2003 as the company behind the
application we're using is not supporting UNIX/Linux.

Windows also has performance utilities but they tell me that the server
isn't heavily loaded at all.

A good think would be to have a smaller access log just for statistics,
like
only one line per user access and not every file which transferred to the
user (html, images, js and so on) ...

Frank


Tim Funk wrote:


Something seems odd with your system. I have pounded some tomcat installations with old unix hardware with and without access logging and could hardly tell the difference.

In linux - i was able to tell more of a difference, but not enough to turn off logging.

I am at a loss of where the bottleneck is. If your using *nix - your system should have some OS benchmarking to see disk utilization or other potential bottlenecks.

Good luck.

-Tim

Frank Niedermann wrote:
I've installed LambdaProbe and it tells me that there are not much
Threads
(about 50) and most of them are in state of waiting or timed_waiting. So
that seems to be okay - but what if Tomcat sent the response to the
first
user request and then does the logging, while the next request or other
users are waiting?

And this:
The log files are under 20 MB, that should be fine, shoundn't it? The
disk
is way far from beeing full and it's a RAID1 with SCSI disks so they
should
have enough performance.

I'm now totally unsure if I should enable access.log-files (to have
statistics with AWstats) or disable them (to have more performance) ...

Frank


Frank Niedermann wrote:

Tim,


Tim Funk wrote:
Unless you are max'd on working threads - access logging should not be
a performance hit. Access logging takes pace after the response is sent to the client.

BUT if the access logs are big, AND you a re low on disk, AND/OR your disk is SLOOOOW then that could be a problem. The overhead of logging the access log is pretty low.

The log files are under 20 MB, that should be fine, shoundn't it? The
disk
is way far from beeing full and it's a RAID1 with SCSI disks so they
should
have enough performance.

I'm now totally unsure if I should enable access.log-files (to have
statistics with AWstats) or disable them (to have more performance) ...

Frank



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