Martin-

We are using Struts, however, version 1.2.9. But, after looking at the link, I'm not sure this will help as it doesn't really address the problem. Storing the date/time a user logs in on the session is probably useful, but our problem is that we want to forcefully log the user out if there's no human present at the computer and the AJAX tasks keep a user's session active indefinitely, whether or not they mean it to.

Additionally, assuming we didn't have the AJAX tasks, we'd have to check the logged in time from the session on every request and that's just not realistic when you have hundreds of Struts actions, even with a unique parent Action class. That said, I'm beginning to suspect that this may be the only way to go, i.e., have base Action for Struts actions and base action for AJAX actions. My only issue with this is that then the onus is on the developer to use the right Action and if they don't, a session could inadvertently be left open which is a security risk.

Alternatively, we could simply force the logout on the user after 12 hours period...which would kind of suck for the user if they were in the middle of something and so I can almost guarantee that our product management team wouldn't go for it since it's not really creating a positive user experience.

--adam

Martin Gainty wrote:
Hi Adam-

You can try this with Struts..
http://struts.apache.org/2.x/docs/simplelogin-with-session.html
insert the starting-date-time intio Session variable
and then in the logoutAction.execute method do some quick math on the
time-delta to determine if you want to quiesce the session

HTH
M-

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Gordon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <users@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:04 AM
Subject: Session expiration and AJAX issues


A couple of issues:

We've set our session expiration to 12 hours (I know it's long) and
we're seeing behavior where certain browsers (namely IE) apparently
can't count that high (we set the meta Refresh header but the page
doesn't reload after the allotted time, session expiration time + 20
minutes).

Since this issue was discovered, we've added background AJAX timers on
some of our web pages that refresh (authenticated) content.  While this
happily works, unfortunately, if the user chooses to remain on one of
these pages, and then goes on vacation, the session stays active because
the AJAX calls keep the session alive.

Our first attempt at a solution was to have a JavaScript counter that,
after every 20 minutes, incremented a counter and if that counter ever
got to 37, we knew that the user hadn't changed web pages and we could
log them out (window.location = <logout URL>.  The problem is that this
doesn't appear to work either and additionally, it relies on JavaScript
bypassing Tomcat's built-in features.  User's cannot log in w/o having
JavaScript enabled, so it's not a matter of a user potentially disabling
it, rather it puts the onus on the browser to inform the server that the
user's session needs to be expired.

Does anyone have experience in this area and if so, how have you solved
this problem?  I know Google uses AJAX with their Gmail webapp, but they
don't seem to care about not expiring the user's session.  Any help
would be appreciated.

Thanks,

--adam

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