Yes I tried, it is all the same.

Either I'm hitting a platform bug (which is HP-UX 11.31 Itanium JVM
1.6.0.03) or a tomcat 6.0.18 bug.

I'll try exactly the same configuration on my debian and see if anything is
different at all.




Robin Wilson-5 wrote:
> 
> Sorry I can't be more help - I'm still trying to figure this out myself.
> 
> What happens if you use 'channelsendoptions=6' instead of '8'?
> 
> --
> Robin D. Wilson
> Director of Web Development
> KingsIsle Entertainment, Inc.
> WORK: 512-623-5913
> CELL: 512-426-3929
> www.KingsIsle.com
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kursat Tuncel [mailto:kursat.tun...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 6:39 PM
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Problem with DeltaManager & BackupManager
> 
> 
> Hi Robin,
> 
> Yes,  /var/tomcat$n/webapps/examples/WEB-INF/web.xml contains
> <distributable/>
> and
> 
>  /var/tomcat$n/conf/context.xml is like this:
> 
>     <!--
>     <Manager pathname="" />
>     -->
> 
> I think the problem is somewhat deeper. Because I can see from the logs
> that
> sessions are replicated when I use BackupManager. I mean, I only change
> DeltaManager to BackupManager, open 4 terminal and do
> 
> tail -f /var/tomcat$n/logs/localhost.2009-04-25.log 
> 
> for each instance and 
> 
> see the following message:
> 
> (instance 2)
> Apr 25, 2009 2:29:00 AM org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContext log
> INFO: SessionListener:
> sessionCreated('4A173B54F43792042A4FDB991D48C409.s2')
> Apr 25, 2009 2:29:00 AM org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContext log
> INFO: SessionListener:
> attributeAdded('4A173B54F43792042A4FDB991D48C409.s2',
> 'numguess', 'num.numberguessb...@4b2dd538')
> 
> (intance 4 log message)
> 
> INFO: SessionListener:
> attributeAdded('4A173B54F43792042A4FDB991D48C409.s2',
> 'numguess', 'num.numberguessb...@3c6833f2')
> Apr 25, 2009 2:29:00 AM org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContext log
> INFO: SessionListener:
> attributeReplaced('4A173B54F43792042A4FDB991D48C409.s2', 'numguess',
> 'num.numberguessb...@3c6833f2')
> Apr 25, 2009 2:29:00 AM org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContext log
> INFO: SessionListener:
> attributeReplaced('4A173B54F43792042A4FDB991D48C409.s2', 'numguess',
> 'num.numberguessb...@5d2a73d9')
> Apr 25, 2009 2:29:01 AM org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContext log
> INFO: SessionListener:
> attributeReplaced('4A173B54F43792042A4FDB991D48C409.s2', 'numguess',
> 'num.numberguessb...@e1bdb58')
> Apr 25, 2009 2:29:01 AM org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContext log
> INFO: SessionListener:
> attributeReplaced('4A173B54F43792042A4FDB991D48C409.s2', 'numguess',
> 'num.numberguessb...@46dd75a4')
> ---
> (no log in instance 1 and 3)
> 
> First, BackupManager seems to select the backup node arbitrarly. In this
> example, I created the session on jvmRoute s2, it replicated in on s4
> which
> seemed random to me. In order to eliminate this random behavior, I tried
> switching to DeltaManager with exactly same configuration,
> 
> Here is the result:
> 
> (all instance logs shows this)
> Apr 25, 2009 2:33:51 AM org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContext log
> INFO: SessionListener:
> sessionCreated('3DA2A86518AC780A0832669D168B66FD.s2')
> Apr 25, 2009 2:33:51 AM org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContext log
> INFO: SessionListener:
> attributeAdded('3DA2A86518AC780A0832669D168B66FD.s2',
> 'numguess', 'num.numberguessb...@2fe6e305')
> 
> --
> 
> When I refresh the "jsp", I'm changing the session attribute because I can
> see from the example:
> [Good guess, but nope. Try lower. You have made 18 guesses.]
> 
> 
> and balancer-manager shows
> 
> Worker URL    Route   RouteRedir      Factor  Set     Status  Elected To      
> From
> ajp://127.0.0.1:12001 s1              1       0       Ok      0       0       > 0
> ajp://127.0.0.1:12002 s2              1       0       Ok      18      0       
> 22K
> ajp://127.0.0.1:12003 s3              1       0       Ok      0       0       > 0
> ajp://127.0.0.1:12004 s4              1       0       Ok      0       0       
> 0 
> 
> 
> But there is nothing in the log as the one in BackupManager
> (attributeReplaced..)
> 
> So, normally, when I disable "s2" route, session should continue, I must
> see
> the "counter" in the jsp increasing, but it starts over.
> 
> Thank you.
> (sorry for typos)
> 
> 
> 
> Robin Wilson-5 wrote:
>> 
>> Did you comment out the  <Manager pathname="" /> line in 'context.xml'?
>> If
>> you leave that it, it doesn't use the manager you defined for the
>> cluster.
>> 
>> Also, is your web app defined as '<distributable />' in the 'web.xml'
>> file
>> from the webapp dir?
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Robin D. Wilson
>> Director of Web Development
>> KingsIsle Entertainment, Inc.
>> WORK: 512-623-5913
>> CELL: 512-426-3929
>> www.KingsIsle.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kursat Tuncel [mailto:kursat.tun...@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 6:12 PM
>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>> Subject: Problem with DeltaManager & BackupManager
>> 
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I'm trying to setup a Tomcat Cluster configuration by using the example
>> provided in http://www.mbaworld.com/docs/cluster-howto.html
>> 
>> My problem is actually a bit strange. I've been digging the problem for 2
>> days but no success.
>> 
>> Here is my configuration:
>> 
>> 4 Tomcat instances on the same machine, version 6.0.18
>> I'm using apache as the http connector, version Apache/2.2.11.
>> 
>> Here is my httpd.conf:
>> [...]
>> <Proxy balancer://ajpCluster>
>> BalancerMember ajp://127.0.0.1:12001  route=s1
>> BalancerMember ajp://127.0.0.1:12002  route=s2
>> BalancerMember ajp://127.0.0.1:12003  route=s3
>> BalancerMember ajp://127.0.0.1:12004 route=s4
>> </Proxy>
>> <Location /examples>
>> ProxyPass balancer://ajpCluster/examples stickysession=JSESSIONID
>> </Location>
>> [...]
>> 
>> Here are the 4 tomcat instances seperate config file
>> (each located in /var/tomcat[1-n] as CATALINA_BASE, properly configure
>> startup/shutdown scripts, ports etc.)
>> 
>> ---
>>     <Engine name="Catalina" defaultHost="localhost" jvmRoute="s1">
>> 
>>       <!-- The request dumper valve dumps useful debugging information
>> about
>>            the request and response data received and sent by Tomcat.
>>            Documentation at: /docs/config/valve.html -->
>> 
>>       <!--
>>       <Valve className="org.apache.catalina.valves.RequestDumperValve"/>
>>       -->
>> 
>>       <!-- This Realm uses the UserDatabase configured in the global JNDI
>>            resources under the key "UserDatabase".  Any edits
>>            that are performed against this UserDatabase are immediately
>>            available for use by the Realm.  -->
>>       <Realm className="org.apache.catalina.realm.UserDatabaseRealm"
>>              resourceName="UserDatabase"/>
>> 
>>       <!-- Define the default virtual host
>>            Note: XML Schema validation will not work with Xerces 2.2.
>>        -->
>>       <Host name="localhost"  appBase="webapps"
>>             unpackWARs="true" autoDeploy="true"
>>             xmlValidation="false" xmlNamespaceAware="false">
>>         
>>         <Cluster className="org.apache.catalina.ha.tcp.SimpleTcpCluster"
>>                  channelSendOptions="8">
>> 
>>           <Manager
>> className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.DeltaManager"
>>                    expireSessionsOnShutdown="false"
>>                    notifyListenersOnReplication="true"/>
>> 
>>           <Channel
>> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.GroupChannel">
>>             <Membership
>> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastService"
>>                         address="228.0.0.4"
>>                         port="45564"
>>                         frequency="500"
>>                         dropTime="3000"/>
>>             <Receiver
>> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.nio.NioReceiver"
>>                       address="auto"
>>                       port="14001"
>>                       autoBind="100"
>>                       selectorTimeout="5000"
>>                       maxThreads="6"/>
>> 
>>             <Sender
>> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.ReplicationTransmitter">
>>               <Transport
>> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.nio.PooledParallelSender"/>
>>             </Sender>
>>             <Interceptor
>> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.TcpFailureDetector"/>
>>             <Interceptor
>> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.MessageDispatch15Interceptor"/>
>>           </Channel>
>> 
>>           <Valve className="org.apache.catalina.ha.tcp.ReplicationValve"
>>                  filter=""/>
>>           <Valve
>> className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.JvmRouteBinderValve"/>
>> 
>>           <Deployer
>> className="org.apache.catalina.ha.deploy.FarmWarDeployer"
>>                     tempDir="/tmp/war-temp/"
>>                     deployDir="/tmp/war-deploy/"
>>                     watchDir="/tmp/war-listen/"
>>                     watchEnabled="false"/>
>> 
>>           <ClusterListener
>> className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.JvmRouteSessionIDBinderListener"/>
>>           <ClusterListener
>> className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.ClusterSessionListener"/>
>>         </Cluster>    
>>       </Host>
>>     </Engine>
>> ---
>> 
>> jvmRoute value and NioReceiver port value is 1-n for all 4 tomcat
>> instances
>> (i.e., s1, s2, s3, s4 and
>> 14001, 14002, 14003, 14004 for the instances)
>> 
>> 
>> Theoretically, this configuration should work.
>> 
>> I deployed "examples" application provided in tomcat examples and made it
>> "</distributable>" in web.xml of the application. I also used "Number
>> guess"
>> game provided in examples application. I had to modify NumGuessBean.java
>> to
>> implement java.io.Serializable.
>> 
>> So my setup seems ok upto now.
>> 
>> When I start tomcat instances, and run the example, I see from the
>> localhost.xxx.log that session is created on all nodes.
>> 
>> i.e.
>> ..
>> INFO: SessionListener:
>> sessionCreated('78C5694D20B69F54D5CEBD26F10D788D.s1')
>> Apr 25, 2009 1:34:51 AM org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContext log
>> INFO: SessionListener:
>> attributeAdded('78C5694D20B69F54D5CEBD26F10D788D.s1',
>> 'numguess', 'num.numberguessb...@19de0b5e')
>> ..
>> 
>> Now my problem starts where.
>> 
>> When I start changing the value of session attribute by hitting "Refresh"
>> button, I don't see any replication happenning. Normally, I should see
>> "attributeReplaced" messages in the log. How to I know this, because
>> exactly
>> same configuration but using "BackupManager" instead of "DeltaManager" it
>> happens exactly like this. But BackupManager only "backups" to one node
>> to
>> another, i.e., it replicates deltas between two instances only, and the
>> choice of selecting this backupnode seems to be completely arbitrary.
>> These
>> is nothing in the documentation how backup node is selected.
>> 
>> Also using balancer-manager handler in Apache, I disable the jvm instance
>> that my session was created and redirect it to another JVM. With
>> deltaManager, session start from beginning. With backup manager, session
>> continues only if I can select the right jvm, that is the backup of the
>> instance.
>> 
>> So it seems that I'm stuck with setting up a cluster configuration.
>> 
>> Has anyone tried Tomcat 6.0.18 with Apache 2.2.11, sticky session mode
>> with
>> mod_proxy_ajp?
>> 
>> I'm stucked with this configuration. 
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