Hi Rainer,

The other possible configuration that I think probably we might be
lacking/quite different is that we are loadbalancing the requests among
240 worker nodes each pointing to one app instance (all app instances
available in the default cluster) and we use Busyness algorithm(for load
balancer worker).

We have seen partial content from the middle of the pages as well which
was quite difficult to simulate in my local setup.

Do you think load balancing among 240 workers could be a possibiltiy of
messing up with request responses/adding up delay when there is a
failover/other load balancing situations? (Or) is there a defined limit
of worker nodes to be balanced that have been identified/defined?


Regards,
Bala

-----Original Message-----
From: Balakarthik Baskaran (WT01 - Retail, CPG, Transportation & Gover
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:20 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Need Help - Mod_jk/Apache - Mutiple Content issue

Hi Rainer,

I tried with all the configuration that you defined and am still able to
simulate the partial content when I make the code to sleep for a time
greater than the time defined in the reply timeout.

I understand that once the partail content is written into the client
pipe,it would not be feasible to get it back or ignore it.We are working
on finding the root cause of what is creating a delay in th app side of
more than 3 mins of reply timeout defined in prod.

But just looking at a general case,considering a long running
transaction/idle thread in the app for a 1 in 1M probability,if the case
is going to occur,there will be definitely be a partial content seen.And
we are afraid this would be aggravated when akamai comes into play.We
did speak to akamai on this regard and they have a opinion that there
would be a performance hit when any patching is going to be applied at
their end.

So,do you think of any fall back approach or a way to eliminate this
situation from apache/mod_jk perspective (although the current
configuration does not help) (or) do u think/aware of any cases/clients
who uses mod_jk/apache where the situation would have been handled
better (or) even if everyone who uses mod_jk/apache would be failing
with the same issue when such a situation (app code taking a longer time
and leading to partial content sent) would be faced by them?

Thanks again for you help.

Regards,
Bala

-----Original Message-----
From: Rainer Jung [mailto:rainer.j...@kippdata.de]
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 4:29 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Need Help - Mod_jk/Apache - Mutiple Content issue

On 14.09.2009 12:02, balakarthik.baska...@wipro.com wrote:
> But I think you mentioned earlier that you were able to simulate the
> problem.

I didn't simulate, I understodd from reading the code. I also said, it
should go away when using recovery_options. So please:

- optimize your configuration
- see whether you still have problems and let us know if so

The configurations will not help with Akamai eventually caching
incomplete responses. If a backend doesn't send the full response, we
can't fix it with configuration.

Regards,

Rainer

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rainer Jung [mailto:rainer.j...@kippdata.de]
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:11 PM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: Need Help - Mod_jk/Apache - Mutiple Content issue
>
> On 14.09.2009 11:33, balakarthik.baska...@wipro.com wrote:
>> Thanks Rainer.
>> Just Curious,did these settings helped to overcome the multiple
>> content problem in your local setup?
>
> I never had a multiple content problem - maybe due to good
> configuration.
>
>> Also,thanks for your pointer on the thread id's for getting the
>> correlations.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rainer

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