On Feb 23, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote:

> Hi Evgeny,
> thanks a lot for shared your experience, very interesting. I'd like to
> plug something magic that could avoid me configuring a filter, I
> started investigating about a possible use of AOP & HttpSession.
> If anyone is interested, I'll share my results when done.

This sound very interesting to me. I'd love to take a look at it when you're 
done. I'm still fighting load-balancing issues.

Jon Brisbin
Portal Webmaster
NPC International, Inc.


> Best regards!!!
> Simo
> 
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Tsirkin Evgeny <tsir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just in case somebody will google for a solution for "replacing session".
>> I have done this .
>> First of all ,why:
>> We have cluster of 2 machines .
>> Each have a separate db on it .
>> The machines are sharing information using nfs mounting fs.
>> Each machine runs it's own apache server ,(no apache balancer in front).
>> There IS a hardware load balancer in front of this but sometime it fails
>> to route already open sessions to same host.
>> So,we can't :
>> 1. share sessions using files ,because this would be same file for 2 tomcats
>>    and because this would fail on nfs .
>> 2. we can't use tomcat cluster because there are cases when BOTH tomcat
>>    would be shut down or restarted and session would be loosed.
>> 3. we can't use a db because there is no central db - each host has it's own
>> one.
>> 4. to complicate issue machines could be added/removed to the cluster.
>> 
>> What we did - override session object using filter.On each request start it
>> would
>> read it's info from db (any configured one ,but preferring the local one)
>> On each request end it would write itself into ALL dbs that are configured
>> to be
>> used.
>> Although the obvious problem here is the writing to more then 1 db and
>> reading
>> from a db on each request ,this really works good thanks for mysql to be
>> so fast on simple read/write.
>> I have even implemented a simple lock mechanism for session .
>> What more - this solution is portable ,it worked for us on SunONE server
>> and now on tomcat.
>> Thanks
>> Evgeny
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Simone Tripodi 
>> <simone.trip...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Martin,
>>> very interesting, thanks for share it!!! I did, more or less, the same
>>> on a project for a customer, but it was strictly related to the
>>> application, your stuff looks much much better of mine and it is a
>>> reusable module.
>>> All the best,
>>> Simo
>>> 
>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/<http://people.apache.org/%7Esimonetripodi/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Martin Grotzke
>>> <martin.grot...@javakaffee.de> wrote:
>>>> Hi Jon,
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 11:55 -0600, Jon Brisbin wrote:
>>>>> I'm trying to figure out today how I can implement a Valve or something
>>> that can store a session to a backend DB and reload that session on another
>>> Tomcat instance similar to how the PersistentManager loads user's session
>>> after a restart.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would a Valve based on PersistentValve allow me to implement a
>>> cluster-like solution such that a user login causes a write to a central
>>> database and a load balanced request to another server would see that user
>>> without forcing another login?
>>>> You might have a look at the
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/memcached-session-manager/ which is a session
>>>> failover solution storing sessions in memcached.
>>>> 
>>>> When the project was created I only thought of applications using sticky
>>>> sessions but it should also work with non-sticky sessions if sessions
>>>> are stored in memcached synchronously (sessionBackupAsync needs to be
>>>> set to false, see [1]).
>>>> 
>>>> The memcached-session-manager basically is a session manager
>>>> implemention, the most interesting part is the
>>>> MemcachedBackupSessionManager ([2]) if you want to have a look at the
>>>> code.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Martin
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [1]
>>> http://code.google.com/p/memcached-session-manager/wiki/SetupAndConfiguration
>>>> [2]
>>> http://github.com/magro/memcached-session-manager/blob/master/core/src/main/java/de/javakaffee/web/msm/MemcachedBackupSessionManager.java
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jon Brisbin
>>>>> Portal Webmaster
>>>>> NPC International, Inc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all guys and very nice to meet the Tomcat community,
>>>>>> I've a web-application that needs to be replicated in more than one
>>>>>> Tomcat, and since it is HttpSession based, I need to enable the
>>>>>> session replication.
>>>>>> Even if I work with very good sysadmins that know how to do it, I'm
>>>>>> curious and would like to know if I could replace the HttpSession
>>>>>> implementation with a my own one, I'd like to integrate Hazelcast[1]
>>>>>> for data synchronization.
>>>>>> Thanks in advance, every suggestion will be very appreciated.
>>>>>> Simo
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] http://www.hazelcast.com/
>>>>>> 
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