i agree ..caching works well for previously referenced entities
natural joins work if the column names are identical that is 
table1.engineering==table2.engineering
but engineering==eng would not work for natural join and consequently fallback 
to cartesian join
which would of course slow the query to a crawl
 
an interesting digression
Martin 
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> Subject: RE: [OT] RE: Tomcat Consultant
> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:12:41 -0500
> From: jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:41 AM
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> > Martin,
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> > On 9/30/2010 10:50 AM, Martin Gainty wrote:
> > > i would be interested in what administration overhead with this
> > > translate_entry table
> > 
> > Probably about the same as doing a CREATE VIEW.
> > 
> Actually more like a JOIN. The run-time loaded in and cached the necessary 
> rows from the lookup tables and pulled the data fields needed. Essentially 
> though, it was more like a left-join. To get the effect of a natural join, 
> you had to add a where clause to exclude lines with null lookup 
> return-values. I'm not sure if you could do a full-join, but I never had need 
> to.
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