thanks for your advice so far, I will be giving your suggestion a try as soon as I have a spare, the issue is not urgent right now, so i;m in no hurry.
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Russ Michaels <r...@michaels.me.uk> wrote: > no Andre, I did mean the Railo list, that was not directed at you or > anyone else here, you have been perfectly helpful so far. > > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:57 PM, André Warnier <a...@ice-sa.com> wrote: >> Russ Michaels wrote: >>> >>> For some reason some of the folks on the Railo list seem to have got >>> quite aggressive toward me due to my wording in my original post where >>> I said. >> >> ... >> >> I suppose that above, you mean the Tomcat list. >> And I regret if I in particular may have sounded aggressive, that was not >> the purpose of my "sermon". >> >> I was only trying to explain that, this being a Tomcat list, most of the >> people may not know anything about Railo (I certainly don't), and not have >> any idea about what it does to Tomcat or its configuration files, and hence >> not have any initial idea what the real source of the problem could be. >> We also have no direct access to your Tomcat host, so we cannot just browse >> around and try to figure out what's wrong by ourselves. >> >> In other words, we are really trying to help, but from a difficult starting >> point. >> We are blind and paralytic, and you are our eyes and hands. If you want us >> to be able to help, you have to do precisely what we tell you to do, and >> tell us precisely what you see. Otherwise there is no way we can figure it >> out, and we will have to send you back to the Railo list. (Not because we >> are mean or unhelpful, but because we have no clue). >> >> What we should normally tell you to do, is to install another Tomcat from >> the Tomcat website, try it and see if the manager app works. Then if it >> does, let you compare /these/ two configurations and figure out the >> differences by yourself. >> But we are not going to do that quite yet because we like challenges, so >> >> We would like you to start from a point which we may know about a bit better >> (a "more standard" Tomcat configuration), without asking you to undo >> everything and start clean. Then we will see if with such a configuration >> the manager works (like it does in the "real standard" configuration which >> the normal Tomcat installer sets up). And then, gradually, get back to your >> current configuration where it /seems/ not to work. >> We are hoping to be able to spot what change makes it suddenly not work as >> expected, or even if with this more basic configuration it does not work. >> >> Right now : >> - we don't know which version of Tomcat you are running >> - we don't know if the Railo installer installs a full Tomcat, including a >> manager app or not, and we don't know what configuration changes it makes >> compared to a standard Tomcat. >> - we are supposing that when you issue your URL calls, it is from a browser >> running on the same host as the one where you have Tomcat and Railo >> installed >> - we are supposing that on your host, the name "localhost" is really >> equivalent to the IP address 127.0.0.1 >> - after your 10th post or so, we have learned that you had 2 <Host> tags in >> the server.xml, sharing apparently the same "webapps" dir. We don't really >> know where that comes from (the standard Tomcat install configures just one >> Host), not if it matters here. >> - we also know that after you ran the Railo installer, you also ran >> something else which we do not know either, and then you made some more >> changes back and forth manually to the configuration. That does not clarify >> the situation for us. >> - we do not know the top path of your Tomcat installation (thus we do not >> know really where the "webapps" dir is located) >> >> But >> >> - We know that you are getting an HTTP error 404 when you try to access >> "http://localhost:8888/manager/html";. So we know that a Tomcat is running, >> but it is not finding that page where it expects to find it. >> >> At some point you have told us that, under your "webapps" directory, you >> have the following sub-directories : >> docs >> host-manager >> manager >> root >> >> The sub-directory "root" above should be "ROOT" uppercase. It matters >> greatly, even under Windows. >> Because if it is really "root" like you wrote, then in principle the URL >> which you say is working (http://localhost:8888/index.jsp), should not be >> working. >> And if it is really "root", then it means that either the Railo installer is >> broken, or you have somehow renamed that directory, or copied it from >> somewhere else without paying attention to case. >> >> So please : >> 1) tell us the full path of the top Tomcat installation directory, amd its >> version if you know it >> 2) stop Tomcat (telling us how you do that) >> 3) rename the above "webapps/root" directory to "webapps/ROOT" if necessary >> 4) in your (tomcat_dir)/conf/server.xml, delete or comment out the second >> <Host>...</Host> section, leaving only the Host named "localhost" >> 5) restart Tomcat (telling us how you do that) and wait 10 sec. >> 6) from a browser on the same host, access "http://localhost:8888";, and then >> redo the same again while pressing "shift" and the "reload" icon. >> If what you see is a page with a Tomcat logo and a menu on the left, then >> it's fine. Otherwise, tell us what page you do see. >> 7) if the page above worked fine, then click on the "Tomcat Manager" link in >> that menu and tell us what happens. 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