forgot to add... i am using TomEE/ActiveMQ to do JMS (1.0) stuff (learned
the code via Tomee's 'simple MDB' example), and the 'stuff' works great!

my app is doing simple MDB stuff, triggered by @Schedule methods on
@Singleton @Lock(WRITE) bean, which references @ApplicationScoped CDI bean
to update application-scope/wide properties/variables, etc...

and as I learned from David Blevins, I can make the @Schedule more
'aggressive' (@Schedule ever 2 minutes and/or less). i have @Schedule
running every 1 or 2 minutes, and @Schedule running every 30 seconds (I
think) to check @ApplicationScoped or @Singleton bean; I forgot the details
(you know how we developers forget some stuff in the app/implementation
until we look at the code).

just sharing that tidbit though...



On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Leonardo K. Shikida <[email protected]>wrote:

> Thanks Howard, I think you're right.
>
> I'll take that 2 cents :-)
>
> TIA
>
> Leo
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Howard W. Smith, Jr.
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Leonardo, you may want to revisit Java EE 6 tutorial. almost 2 years ago
> > (summer 2011), before I began coding Java EE, I studied Java EE 6
> tutorial,
> > and since I been doing (minimal) Java EE 6 ever since, by looking at your
> > code, I will respond as follows (based on my learning):
> >
> > 1. I would never add @Startup on @Stateless, even though I've seen others
> > add @startup on@Singleton, and from what I thought/learned/read,
> @Singleton
> > is @Stateless, but I could be wrong. :)
> >
> > 2. I would never add or 'assume' that @PostConstruct should be added to
> > @Stateless. per my Java EE 6 tutorial learning-and-understanding of
> > @PostConstruct, I should only add @PostConstruct on managed beans
> > (@RequestScoped, @SessionScoped, etc...)
> >
> > my 'two' cents...
> >
> > Oh, I have learned from TomEE committers that I can/should use @Singleton
> > @Lock(Read or Write), and I can add @Schedule methods to @Singleton
> > bean(s). I am doing (all of) this in my app, using TomEE 1.6.0, and I am
> > very satisfied with the performance of the app. But I am not using
> > @Startup; i have an @ApplicationScoped CDI bean that is global to entire
> > app, all sessions, the @Singleton beans, etc... when TomEE starts my app,
> > @ApplicationScoped bean will be instantiated and I can add @PostConstruct
> > to this CDI @ApplicationScoped bean to do whatever I want to do when my
> app
> > 'starts'...so why do I need @Startup? don't need it and I don't use it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Leonardo K. Shikida <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> learning something new everyday ;-)
> >>
> >> []
> >>
> >> Leo
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > @Startup on stateless doesnt mean anything in the spec IIRC ;)
> >> > Le 9 juil. 2013 19:04, "Leonardo K. Shikida" <[email protected]> a
> >> écrit :
> >> >
> >> >> No, it's a regular @Stateless
> >> >>
> >> >> @Stateless
> >> >> @Startup
> >> >> public class JmsWorkerEJB {...}
> >> >>
> >> >> It has a method annotated with @Schedule that reads from a JMS queue.
> >> >>
> >> >> In the worst case, since @PostConstruct is being called, I could
> >> >> schedule from there instead, but does not seems an elegant way to
> deal
> >> >> with that :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> []
> >> >>
> >> >> Leo
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> > Found in code this time ;)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Is your ejb a singleton? Did you set @lock(read)?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Working thread can be done with @Asynchronous in javaee 6
> >> >> > Le 9 juil. 2013 18:52, "Leonardo K. Shikida" <[email protected]> a
> >> >> écrit :
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> MinSize does instantiate these :-)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Where did you find this parameter?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> But the method annotated with @Schedule is run only for one
> instance
> >> >> >> at a time. I thought it should run for all of them.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> How people usually implement the concept of working threads in
> EJB?
> >> >> >> Maybe I am trying to do this in the wrong way.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> TIA
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Leo
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Did you try MinSize?
> >> >> >> > Le 9 juil. 2013 18:16, "Leonardo K. Shikida" <[email protected]>
> a
> >> >> >> écrit :
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Hi Romain
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I've added to tomee.xml
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>         <Container id="foo" type="STATELESS">
> >> >> >> >>                 PoolSize=10
> >> >> >> >>         </Container>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> but it didn't worked as I was expecting.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I thought it would instantiate 10 instances.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I've also added a sysout in the
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>         @PostConstruct
> >> >> >> >>         public void init() {
> >> >> >> >>                 System.out.println("Hello "+this);
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I thought I'd have 10 lines in the first service, but there was
> >> only
> >> >> >> one.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Do I have to set somewhere (somehow) that my bean is using this
> >> >> >> >> container or tomee assumes it's the default configuration for
> all
> >> >> >> >> stateless beans?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> TIA
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Leo
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > Hi
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > The basic conf is here
> >> >> >> >> http://tomee.apache.org/containers-and-resources.html
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > You can set PoolSize (MaxSize) but MinSize too
> >> >> >> >> > Le 9 juil. 2013 14:45, "Leonardo K. Shikida" <
> [email protected]>
> >> a
> >> >> >> >> écrit :
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> Hi
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> I am using a stateless bean to consume from a jms queue
> >> >> periodically
> >> >> >> >> >> (@Schedule). It's started with the container (@Startup). Is
> >> there
> >> >> any
> >> >> >> >> >> way to configure somewhere the initial number of instances
> for
> >> >> this
> >> >> >> >> >> specific bean?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> TIA
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Leo
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>

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